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  • Bantenburg and chevrons

    Posted by Paul Goodwin on June 14, 2005 at 8:26 am

    Hi All

    need some advise please if poss.

    i have my first largish recovery vehicle to do, and they want chevrons at the back and batenburg (spelling) down the back.

    this is the first time i’ve had to do this so …..

    for recovery vehicles is there a specific grade of reflective to use?

    batenburg cut both colours as squares and fit in or flood fill base colour and then fit other squares over top ( that seems best option but pos smore expensive)

    chevrons the same as the batenburg?

    i believe this stuff doesn’t conform so only use on flat panels. so template up then fit or carefully cut on vehicle?

    any and all help will be greatfully recieved

    Simon Kay replied 18 years, 10 months ago 4 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    June 14, 2005 at 9:24 am

    I don’t think there are any requirements for particular materials on recovery vehicles. Anyway, if you use one of the high conspicuity materials like diamond grade you will need to be very careful with your templating, as this stuff is completely non conformable. I would use butted up rectangles rather than flooding and overlaying as this uses less vinyl.

    Make a template by covering the vehicle in acetate sheet and drawing the panels. You can use application tape for this but acetate gives a better idea of any difficult compound curves.

    The usual proportions are 600mm x 300mm rectangles for battenberg and 150mm stripes for rear chevrons.

    Hope this helps a bit,

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    June 14, 2005 at 9:43 am

    Thanks BigG 🙂 it sure does

    i knwo wet is a dirty word 🙂 but shoudl i slide the squares in wet or should i do dry?

    most of my fitting is dry now anyway, but if this stuff sticks like sh*t to a rocking horse would wet be better for a n00b liek me?

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    June 14, 2005 at 12:03 pm

    What material are you thinking of using? If it’s engineering grade, you can apply it wet (although the makers don’t recommend it, I’ve never had a problem applying it wet). If you are going to use a prismatic material, like diamond grade or avery EV, apply dry. It is very grippy but is fairly easy to apply because it is so rigid. Just don’t try to apply round compound curves or you’ll get spikes where it pops off again, sometimes days later.

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    June 14, 2005 at 12:15 pm

    Was going to use the NikkALITE mg 4400 SERIES FROM EUROPOINT

    whoops caps

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    June 14, 2005 at 2:04 pm

    I know the name Nikkalite but not the product code. Is it a ‘regular’ reflective like engineering grade or is it a thicker, cellular type. In any case, the distributor/manufacturer should be able to advise on application conditions. Personally, I would apply dry. An old trick is to stick the reflective to a 5 year calendered vinyl before cutting it – this makes application a doddle, and removal easier in future.

  • Simon Kay

    Member
    June 14, 2005 at 10:40 pm

    I’ve done that wee trick (An old trick is to stick the reflective to a 5 year calendered vinyl before cutting it – this makes application a doddle, and removal easier in future.) BigG it works a treat eh? Far better than taking a mm of reflective off at a time 😕

    Hey Mort – Let us know how you go. I’ve been asked to do a recovery vehicle in 3 weeks time. It’d be interesting to see what you do – even to be able to show my client what can be done. 😀

    Good Luck.

    Cheers.

  • Phil Halling

    Member
    June 15, 2005 at 6:22 am

    Just want to echo all the above and add the latest spec for rear chevrons is an angle of 60 degrees, and remember there are restrictions on what reflective colours you can use on various parts of the vehicle,
    ie: no reflective red on the sides or front, no reflective white to the rear
    These materials are governed by the vehicle lighting regs so if you did use in the wrong area it just takes 1 pedantic traffic cop (yes they are out there ) to cause a lot of problems for your customer who will no doubt not blame you in the least.
    Phil

  • Paul Goodwin

    Member
    June 15, 2005 at 7:18 am

    Cheers for that Phil, didn’t know about the 60deg bit or red on the sides 🙂

    BigG thanks for tip about puting on cast first i’ll do that

    Scozzie willdo 🙂

  • Andy Gorman

    Member
    June 15, 2005 at 10:10 am

    Thanks for that bit of info Phil, that’s news to me as I haven’t been involved in emergency services for a couple of years. Does that 60 degree rule apply to private breakdown companies or just Fire/Police/Ambulance?

  • Simon Kay

    Member
    June 15, 2005 at 11:10 am

    Thanks Mort,

    Look forward to seeing it.

    So that was red 60 degree chevrons on the side and huge white reflective letters on the rear that spell ‘Get st**ffed pedantic coppers’

    Was that right 😀

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