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    Posted by Hugh Potter on November 23, 2005 at 8:11 pm

    finally i was able to finish this job today, i put up the brackets last week, then finished as the scaffold came down today,

    banner tensioning system and brackets were supplied by bannerbox,
    as were the double sided total block banners,
    artwork based on customers wishes, though i drew the theatre vector,

    would reccomend the banner system if you ever have to do this kind of work, nice and easy to install, i guess i spent less that 6hrs on site in total, though i think 4 would have sufficed with proper access,

    my only doubts on the banner brackets were the quality of the finish,
    i have yet to talk to bannerbox about it so wont make a big deal over it,
    basically it’s nothing major, the welding and all were fine, the order to delivery time was around 5 days… great !

    A) I just feel the painted finish could be muchly improved by perhaps powder coating, rather than using something like a hammerite spray, just normal handling chipped them and resulted in me getting some white smoothrite which was a perfect match !
    B) the other issue was the weld splatter inside the bracket pole, when sliding the pole into the rbeacket, the splatter made it a little difficult to get the pole in, and resulted in the pole getting scratched somewhat,

    other than that, great !!!

    decided against the chemical fix bolts in the end, opting for the biggest rawl bolt expanding bolts i could find, 21 x 100 mm! this baby aint fallin down !

    i’ve suggested to the manager tonight, about changin the lights on the banners for uplighting flood lights, these arent great, but i had no hand in them,

    anyway…………….


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  • Hugh Potter

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    November 23, 2005 at 8:12 pm

    night time


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  • Andy Gorman

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    November 23, 2005 at 8:16 pm

    Nice one Hugh, they look neat. I’ve got two of these to do next week so thanks for the warning about the paint finish, I’ll get some smootherite!

    What was the bigness (real word!) of these?

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 23, 2005 at 8:37 pm

    lol ! the bigness was 1200 high x 600 wide, overall the height is about 5ft,

    i know this sounds obvious, but make sure the tensioners are opened to max before marking for the holes !! my major worry over this one was that i had to measure the banner system stretched out on the floor, and fit one bracket either side of the scaffold lift, then go back to day and pray i’d measured right !

    btw, theres nowt ya can do about the bottom pole pulling up on the outer end,

  • Lynn Normington

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    November 23, 2005 at 8:59 pm

    they look good Hugh well done,
    I wouldn’t have noticed the thing with the bottom pole until you mentioned it 🙄 nice job

    Lynn

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    November 23, 2005 at 9:22 pm

    nice job done hugh 😀

    nik

  • John Singh

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    November 23, 2005 at 9:24 pm

    See what you mean about the lighting!!! 🙄

    Where they renovating or painting the building at the time you installed the signs? Just wondered if they erected the scaffolding for you to do the job specifically or they were killing two birds with one stone?

    When you say Rawl Bolts are you talking about anchor bolts?

    Nice work by the way – So you had to do a bit of vectorisation eh!

  • Peter Normington

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    November 23, 2005 at 9:26 pm

    Nice job Hugh.

    Only minor crit, rawl bolts rather than stud would have been a bit nicerer (real word I dont think) finish.

    and nothing to do with you, Hugh, but I think the “modern” banners are a bit out of place on such a nice old building.

    Peter

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 23, 2005 at 9:37 pm

    thanks guys n gals,

    Peter, dont you be burgliaring my words, nicerer is one of mine !! i used the studs cos i didnt really want to use bolts, a nicer finish agreed, but i had to use the studs as i couldnt find the bolt type locally anyways,

    i plan to return in around the new year to just check everything is still tight, at that point i’ve told the architect (proj manager) that i’m happy to trim them if he wants me too, he seems quite happy with it tho.

    John,
    anchor bolts ? always calledem rawl bolts cos thats the original maker to my knowledge, they’re the stud type that when you tighten the bolt, it pulls a wege into the metal sleeve and expands it.

  • Jill Marie Welsh

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    November 23, 2005 at 9:53 pm

    Pretty classy work for a naked guy.
    Love…..Jill

  • John Singh

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    November 23, 2005 at 9:56 pm

    Yeah! and its minus 2 over here
    But Hugh don’t mind

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 23, 2005 at 10:00 pm

    awww, thanks Jill,

    John, forgot to mention, scaffold was up for a refurb of the exterior, painting anf lighting,

    the cinema was built around 1920, and was closed in ’65, completely refurbished to original specs, and re-opened after a forced posession about 6 years ago, lottery grant in 97 paid for much of the work, its only one screen, but it really is a lovely building inside, all proper plush seats, deep crimson and cream walls / cornice etc, huge ceiling roses, very art deco, will try get a pic next time i’m there,

    its used for everything from films, local and national theatrical productions and live music.

    earned myself a couple of complimentary tickets too ! result !

  • Lynn Normington

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    November 23, 2005 at 10:32 pm

    Free tickets are nice Hugh but did you get your dosh 😕

    Lynn

  • Derek Heron

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    November 23, 2005 at 10:44 pm

    great job Hugh such an imposing building front to work on with history. shows great confidence to follow through the project is this your first on this scale! (sounds daft but if your bit didn’t work would spoil the whole thing)
    me i would have had a few sleepless nights but that’s just bleary eyed me
    i agree with you on the fixings the bigger the better :thumbup2:

    Derek

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 24, 2005 at 9:13 am

    cheers derek ! yes first of this scale / type, it was a little daunting as the time drew nearer to fitting them, main worry was drilling the holes right as i had no way to know if i was right until the scafold came down, that was a tense half hour or so as i waited to get to them,

    the painter laughed himself silly because of the number of times i scrambles tween the scaffold lifts to measure and remeasure the banner before going back down and rechecking it !

    ultimately both the cuastomer and I are happy with it,

    Lynn, although the quote said payment due on completion, we didnt know when completion would be ! so an invoice will be sent today, then that will go to the manager, then no doubt back thru the architect who gave me the job ! i’ve been skint cos of this job for weeks now, so could do with it soon,

    luckily tomorow i’ll go get my last free haircut from the barbers !!!

  • David McDonald

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    November 24, 2005 at 11:20 am

    Hi Hugh

    I’ve never used Banner box but I’ve had some banner poles from Keith at General Banner. They don’t have a tensioning system but they are well made poles. They aren’t painted but I think they are phosphate treated (coated). So they don’t chip or scratch but of course they only come in a bright silver – I use Smoothrite if I want them in white etc.

    Cheers
    Macky

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 24, 2005 at 11:37 am

    thanks MAcky, i’ll look into them if i need to use this sytem again,

    this should be a nice job work wise, already had a mention in the local paper when they first did an article about the place being renovated (externally), now it’s finished, i believe they have a gala night coming up which will have all the press invited and a profile of each company involved, so hopefully a nice return from this !

  • Jayne Marsh

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    November 24, 2005 at 11:47 am

    Nice job Hugh, looks really good. Did you fit them entirely on your own or did you have an extra pair of hands to help out?

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 24, 2005 at 12:12 pm

    just me ! they’re pretty easy to fit if you can drill a hole ! each bracket has three holes (this is the std duty system),

    ordinarily…..
    mark the holes for the top bracket,
    drill and bolt on,
    fit top pole, tighten bolt and grub screw,
    hang banner with tensioning system fully open,
    mark holes for the bottom bracket while it’s hanging,
    making sure the bottom bar is level,
    get the banner outta yer way,
    drill and bolt on,
    slide the bottom pole in,
    tighten up pole bolt and grub screw,
    then simply adjust the tensioners and lock them off when you’re happy with it,
    some adjustment might be needed to get the banner hanging vertical twen top and bottom pole otherwise it appears to pull a crease into it,

    in this case i couldnt hang the banner and drill the botom bracket, so had to fit top pole, pull it tight and measure the drop, then go down to next level and measure down from the top bracket, quite nervy at this point ! thankfully it all worked out fine !

  • Lorraine Clinch

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    November 24, 2005 at 12:26 pm

    good job Hugh, and at least you had scaffolding!

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 24, 2005 at 12:40 pm
    quote Lorraine Clinch:

    good job Hugh, and at least you had scaffolding!

    it would’ve cost em a fair bit more if i hadnt of had the scaffold !! i wouldnt have liked to have done it on a ladder, thats for sure ! at least is wasnt windy though !

  • Martin Cole

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    November 24, 2005 at 2:14 pm

    Well done Hugh! Lovely job! 🙂

    That is one beautiful building.

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 24, 2005 at 2:22 pm

    aye Martin, don’t make em like that anymore !! you should see the interior !

    here’s a link i jus googled, no big pics or owt but you’ll get an idea, click on restoration in the nav bar

    http://www.hailshampavilion.co.uk/

  • Carrie Brown

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    November 24, 2005 at 6:49 pm

    Nice work Hugh. 😀 Its good seeing more of your work!! What a beautiful building.

  • del

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    November 24, 2005 at 9:56 pm

    Top Job Hugh! nice 😎

  • J_J_O

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    November 24, 2005 at 10:26 pm

    Nice job mister Potter, everything should be perfect at such a beautiful building and it seems to be. :thumbup2:

    JJ

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 24, 2005 at 10:28 pm

    thanks all, comments appreciated,

    enjoyed doing this as it was quite involved, a nice addition to the learning curve too, what with vectorising the image etc, pretty easy to redraw these thing once i got the hang of it ! havent attempted a trace with corel in ages now !

  • Phill Fenton

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    November 24, 2005 at 11:14 pm

    Well done Hugh. The finished work looks fine. And it sounds like you’ve learned a lot in the process. I like your attitude. Keep up the fine work 😀

  • Robert Lambie

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    November 25, 2005 at 12:04 am

    as phill and others has said mate… well done! 😉

    thanks for taking the time to post your work, great seeing your progress come on leaps & bounds.

  • jamiet2k

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    November 25, 2005 at 2:55 pm

    Nice install job, Hugh. 🙂

    I’m disappointed that the paint finish is not all it could have been, it will be worth us looking into it the cause. If you want to discuss it further, don’t hesitate to give me a call.

    cheers
    Jamie

  • Hugh Potter

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    November 25, 2005 at 8:18 pm

    hi jamie, thanks. Ihad planned to call regards the matter, not a major headache or owt cos the shop over the road sold white hammerite !! over-all i’m very pleased with the system itself, and would certainly use it again,

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