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Banner track advice
Hi All,
Just after a bit of advice on this.
We did a job using the Spiritflex "F" banner track, ( was going to attach image but don’t seem to have the option??) at 3000mm x 1500mm using the plastic tension strip. All good & well, job looks good etc, but the customer now wants to have a selection of banners which they can use in rotation in the frame, re-using the same banners over & over.
Using the current system with the tension strip, is not an option, as after 1-2 uses the tension strip tends to rip the banner & once trimmed anyway, you have nothing to pull when you re-fit to give tension.
I have seen similar tracks used with bolts which then fit through eyelets in the banners & top with a domed nut.
Has anyone used this method?
My worry is that if the eyelets are not put in exactly the right position, you could en up with either a very loose banner or not enough to stretch the eyelet over the bolt.
Part of the idea is also that the customer can change the banners themselves when required.
Thanks
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would it not be more cost effective for them and easier all round to use a banner with bungee type fixings Myles?
i personally dont think they look as good, but when banners have to be continually reused to save money etc there isnt allot of options.
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Myles. I have indeed used eyelets and bolts.
Fix standard ally sign channel to the wall as your frame.
You can just butt up the corners.
Slide in the heads of enough plastic bolts to match the number of eyelets.
Fix your banner up using domed plastic nuts.
If you centre it up before tightening then tighten the middle ones first, you can stretch the banner towards each end to make it taught. -
quote Robert Lambie:would it not be more cost effective for them and easier all round to use a banner with bungee type fixings Myles?i personally dont think they look as good, but when banners have to be continually reused to save money etc there isnt allot of options.
Hi Rob,
I did actually try to sell them that option in the first place, but it was the look that put them off I think, It’s situated in an entrance lobby with very high footfall, & it has to look as neat as possible. Also I could see passing punters pinching the bungees etc 🙁
It’s one of those really tricky ones, as cost is also a major factor both initially & ongoing, as they want the most flexible option but also the cheapest.
Myles
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quote Peter Dee:Myles. I have indeed used eyelets and bolts.
Fix standard ally sign channel to the wall as your frame.
You can just butt up the corners.
Slide in the heads of enough plastic bolts to match the number of eyelets.
Fix your banner up using domed plastic nuts.
If you centre it up before tightening then tighten the middle ones first, you can stretch the banner towards each end to make it taught.Hi peter,
That’s the one… I plan to use the existing track, which will take M8 bolts, but as I outsource the banners, my worry is if they don’t get the eyelets the exact right spacing top to bottom, then no matter how much side tension you get, it could still be slack top to bottom. I presume I would have to let them know the distance between bolt centres top & bottom & keep me fingers crossed.
p.s. do you know who supplies the plastic bolts, washers & domed nuts? would they be preferable to steel?
Myles
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Any banner is going to expand/contract a bit.
Possibly you could fit the channel using slotted holes so there is some leeway in the frame prior to fitting each banner.
Velcro tape might be another way. -
i am sure you probably already thought about this but if you need 3m x 1.5m… could you not just use a single sheet of composite board?
this may sound more expensive but not necessarily and would solve the need for a nice finish but also being secure from abuse etc.
screw a panatrim frame to the wall.
take a single 3m x 1.5m sheet of composite 2mm thick
mount your artwork from banner number 1 onto the face.
now flip the panel over and mount artwork from banner number two on the rear.get a second sheet of 2mm composite board.
repeat same as above but using banner design number three and four.at this point you have a cheap neat panatrim frame.
this frame will hold these two sheets "at once" but one sheet in front of the other.
now as you need to change the promotion on rotation. all you do it take off one side of trim.
slide out the relevant panel and flip it over to show the next advert and slide back in.the panels will not deteriorate or get grubby. and changing them will be much quicker and easier overall.
with it being 2mm composite board it will be relatively cheap too…
anyway… just a suggestion as i am doing this blind.
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Hi Rob,
Yes, not a bad idea indeed, I will cost it up & put it to them & see what happens.
I think originally the signs were going to be a bit bigger, I think 12×6 was talked about & we did do another one for them at 12×8 which works OK as it is only gong to be changed once a year or so.
So because of that I didn’t think the sheeting route would have been the most economical.
Appreciate your help & will let you know how it pans out
Regards
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by the way, does anyone know of a Panatrim supplier in Eire?
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Hi Myles you cold try amari plastics, i no they have a few depots in the UK, not 2 sure about Eire, but they may just have one or may be able to point you in the right direction.
Jus
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quote Justin Williams:Hi Myles you cold try amari plastics, i no they have a few depots in the UK, not 2 sure about Eire, but they may just have one or may be able to point you in the right direction.
Jus
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Hi Justin,
thanks for that, I just googled them & it appears the are in The Republic, so will give them a bell in the morning.Cheers
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No worries mate, if you dont get anyway let me no.
Jus
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quote Robert Lambie:i am sure you probably already thought about this but if you need 3m x 1.5m… could you not just use a single sheet of composite board?
this may sound more expensive but not necessarily and would solve the need for a nice finish but also being secure from abuse etc.
screw a panatrim frame to the wall.
take a single 3m x 1.5m sheet of composite 2mm thick
mount your artwork from banner number 1 onto the face.
now flip the panel over and mount artwork from banner number two on the rear.get a second sheet of 2mm composite board.
repeat same as above but using banner design number three and four.at this point you have a cheap neat panatrim frame.
this frame will hold these two sheets "at once" but one sheet in front of the other.
now as you need to change the promotion on rotation. all you do it take off one side of trim.
slide out the relevant panel and flip it over to show the next advert and slide back in.the panels will not deteriorate or get grubby. and changing them will be much quicker and easier overall.
with it being 2mm composite board it will be relatively cheap too…
anyway… just a suggestion as i am doing this blind.
😀Worked a treat Rob, Thanks for the advice. Haven’t fitted the 2nd sheet in yet as they’re ordering them bit by bit, but it does look better than the banner & will be a whole lot quicker to change when needed.
I’d post a pic of it but don’t seem to have the facility to add attachments for some reason 🙁
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