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  • Banner for nightclub singer

    Posted by ruth on October 21, 2003 at 8:08 am

    Hi,

    I have a job and I don’t know best how to go about it…

    A singer, a lady who wears predominantly black and dark purple clothes wants a sign to hang inside the lighing gantry that she takes to gigs (2.5×0.5m).

    When the night is over she often suffers from helpful drunks who eagerly help load her car and despite their good intentions do tend to damage things. To this end she’d like a sign that can be rolled up and put safe into a tube and kept there between gigs.

    The signs should basically be black with some silver and white, purple and blue, hopefully with some glitter/reflective.

    I’m quite confident that I could buy in a black banner with welded seams and apply reflective and other coloured banner vinyl but will it last?

    One supplier suggested getting it printed but then what about the reflective?

    Please has somebody out there done a job like this ‘cos some guidance would be very gratefully received.

    Robert Lambie replied 20 years, 6 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Henry Barker

    Member
    October 21, 2003 at 9:27 am

    You can buy banner material, and cut out paint mask and then paint it with screenink, this is what I tend to do if its going to be more permanent, most banner vinyls look crap after awhile, because they are only temporary, and its not worth using something like Avery Signflex on a banner.

    Here in Sweden our supplier can weld a rope along the top and bottom sides or a steel pipe in the top making it look nicer when suspended, maybe someone in the UK can do the same.

    Another thing a Swedish company invented and markets a really smart idea called Hold-on for banners which work better than traditional eyelets and you can place them where you want depending on how you want to hang them up.

    Here’s link so you can see what I mean http://www.amicus-trade.com

  • Rodney Gold

    Member
    October 21, 2003 at 11:40 am

    Why not get it printed , seamed top and puttom , insert a dowel in the seam to stiffen and to hold a roper or chord and apply reflective vinyl for the highlights.
    Roll it graphics out otherwise the reflective will crinkle or have it laminated with matt cold pressure film (still roll outward) for protection
    Your biggest problem is most likely curling on the long edges.
    I wouldnt like to do this job or guarantee it for any length of time.

  • Mike Brown

    Member
    October 21, 2003 at 12:06 pm

    …I spoke to RamJam earlier on another matter and suggested that the only thing ‘getting in the way’ of this job was the ‘sparkly/reflective’ bit?…

    If it were me – I’d have the banners printed, including some white detail or highlights and then use a small portable black light/ultraviolet lamp to make the white bits glow!

    You could get hold of a 6″ plastic pipe with end threads, place a scrw-on cap either end and then roll the lightweight ‘mesh’ type banner up, slide it into the tube and slip the handheld flourescent light inside the lot – keep it all together as a kit?…

    more soon

    mikethesign

  • Darryl Seager

    Member
    October 21, 2003 at 12:31 pm

    Nice idea mike.
    the parts req’d to make mikes carrier are available from trade countersfor plumbers.
    darryl aka newbie

  • Rodney Gold

    Member
    October 21, 2003 at 1:25 pm

    Yeh great idea the blacklight!!!1

    There might be a coverage issue with a 2.5m long banner and a low wattage blacklight – but then again seeing all those lacy undergarments glowing thru the the sheer little black numbers (or even better – NO undergarments glowing) might just detract from that 🙂

  • NTC

    Member
    October 21, 2003 at 7:55 pm

    Hi Ruth & Ramjam

    Why not try a black banner with fluorescent vinyl ink & mask it. I did a number of them for a guy who runs a lot of disco & karaokes in my area he has one of those purple lights on the banners and they really stand out .

    You can get this ink from Apollo ink in liverpool it comes in 9 colours .

    0151 9225665

    Norman 😉

    NTC

  • ruth

    Member
    October 22, 2003 at 4:47 pm

    Thanks for all the input guys. I offered the customer 4 options…

    1. Cut vinyl (in-house oracle 451)
    2. Cut vinyl with reflective (in-house oracle 451 plus some engineering grade reflective)
    3. Digital print
    4. Digital print with reflective

    I explain that whilst striking I couldn’t guarantee the refelective.

    For all I offered welded seams, no eyelets and 10 hold-on grips which are stocked by grafityp. For the digital print I’m told that 2 are as cheap as one due to the printers being geared up for 1m wide plus so the possible upsale to 2 banners is quite nice. I explained to the customer the advantage of a second banner which combined with hold-on grips could be easily hung elsewhere in the venue.

    The job is now filed in the ‘Wait Customer’ folder.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    October 22, 2003 at 11:04 pm

    missed this one..
    the reflective could give you bother regarding sticking.. i would think it will curl, go brittle or peel leaving a messing glue residue.
    ontop of that.. it wont make much impact. reflectives are all pretty dull/dark in shade. only any good if headlights etc hit it and certain angles. not a glow in the dark by any means, other than by light bouncing off it..
    the dayglow ink is a good option combined by ultraviolet lights.. but will fade after about 6-12 months i would think.
    the ultraviolet portable light is a good option but if the ld signs took a banging from the drunk tempt helper.. then im guessing the light is next.
    you may want to test banner material will actualy glow first.. the white bits i mean. they may do but i know some whites like rubber, although white do not hold the glowing charge.. (if thats how to discribe it 🙄 )

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