Avery Pantone range of vinyls?

[evo1v]

Yep you have to buy a full role!!, Only I didnt discover this untill after showing a customer the swatch, who was very pleased to have found an exact colour match! — Didnt I feel a fool the next day trying to convince sir that he actually “needed a much more subtle green”, “one like this prehaps”….. he wasnt taken in, so I had to come clean!!

Lawrence

[John Childs]

What grade vinyl are we talking about here? I ask because a Pantone range has been available in the 900 series for a long time (my swatch is dated April 2002).

Also don’t forget that Ritrama offer a Pantone range and although they only have about 45 colours it has been very useful (have you ever tried matching Warm Red?)

Also, Intercoat have some of the colours in their 9600 range matched to RAL.

[evo1v]

They only ever gave me a swatch for the 900, I just assumed they did it for their whole range – thats what I love most about this place, learning..erm..how much I dont know :o, Ohh I received some swatches for oracal 651/751 today, I was quite supprised at the range they offer!, they even give you a german colour translation!! dunkelrot (dark red) is my favourite so far.. 😀 😀

Lawrence

[Brian Little]

I was just about to pop the question …..whats best oracle 751 or Avery Equiv (what ever it is ) The reason i asked was i borrowed some avery when i run out of a certain colour of 751 and was impressed

Regards Brian

[evo1v]

Ive never actually used oracal so I cant realy compare, but avery is very good stuff! which is unfortunatly reflected in its price, saying that if you order enough of it, from spandex its not to bad! But who’ going to want more than a couple of meters of say PINK! 😀 😀

Lawrence

[John Childs]

Lawrence, I asked the question because, some time ago, I had our rep in and he had been told to ask all his customers whether they thought a Pantone range in a more common material would be a good idea and, if they introduced one, would we use it.

I answered in the affirmative (of course) and have since been waiting patiently. From Robert’s original post it looks like they might be ready to announce it.

If it is in something like 700 series, or maybe even 800, then it is likely that lengths of less than a full roll and widths less than 1220 will be available. It will all be down to the distributors, and what level of stock they are prepared to carry, rather than Avery themselves but I have to say that if there are a thousand colours it is asking a lot for them to be able to supply all colours in any width or length from stock.

[John Childs]

Found out a bit more now.

The Pantone is not a new range, just a massive expansion of the already existing 900 range. Consequently things haven’t changed in that nobody is going to stock it and it will only be available on a special order from Holland in full rolls at 1220 wide.

I think that the logic is that they are trying to reduce the number of special colours they get asked for. In those cases a customer puts in a request for a special colour and Avery make a sample, send it out for approval and then make and deliver it. This all takes a long time (I know) and they hope that this new system will eliminate a lot of that. Under the expanded system they will already have the colours matched and we will have swatches so it will just be a matter of ordering the colour we want and waiting four or five days for it to get here from Holland. For those Pantone colours in the range it will cut out the matching and approval stages and consequently take out as much as three or four weeks from the process.

Not what we were hoping for perhaps, but nevertheless a genuine attempt to be helpful and they deserve credit for that.

[jon vital]

You will find that a lot of manufacturers colours are matched to Pantone colours. I only noticed this after realising the Hexis code numbers tallied up with the equivalent Pantone reference.