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  • anyone using bio diesel?

    Posted by Bob Scullion on January 30, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    has anyone used bio diesel ? have read its ok to use in any diesel engine and at 99p a ltr would be good if it could.

    Bob

    Brian Carey replied 13 years, 3 months ago 7 Members · 13 Replies
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  • John Wilson

    Member
    January 30, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Somewhere near me is selling it for 69p a litre and it’s queued out with vans n taxi’s all the time…. worth looking into maybe

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 30, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    you need to be carefull, if its not within the engine manufactures specification you can have all sorts of problems, especially with modern diesels.
    Its like third party inks, some are fine, but others create more problems that can be expensive to fix in a few months time, so negating the initial cost saving.

    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 30, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Like ink too… it will be cheap for a reason. 😀

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    January 30, 2011 at 10:25 pm
    quote Robert Lambie:

    Like ink too… it will be cheap for a reason. 😀

    Its cheap because its made from old chip pan oil…. 😀
    Peter

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 30, 2011 at 11:25 pm
    quote Peter Normington:

    Its cheap because its made from old chip pan oil.

    as i said… just like some of the cheap Inks… with a dash of food colouring 😉 :lol1:

  • John Thomson

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 7:51 am

    It is cheap because it is not taxed the way regular fuel is ( although VAT at 20% still applies).

    Up to 7% of regular diesel is Bio diesel……..it is not ‘chip pan oil’ but is manufactured in laboratories rather than extracted from oil fields and refined.

    john

  • Bob Clarkson

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 10:53 am

    As John said, Bio-diesel is a product in it’s own right, not a reconstituted waste product. Thus the engine does not need to be set up to run on it, meaning you can switch or even mix fuels if Bio isn’t available when you need it.

    But as Peter said, check with the manufacturer specifications, because many modern diesels are really quite complex and I could potentially cause a problem, usually with the ECU trying to figure out what’s changed.

    Older diesel engines were a lot more tolerant to pouring a whole manner of things into them, but very complex modern diesels are not.

    The bonus to this, is should you ever put petrol in your modern diesel engine, or diesel in your modern petrol engine, it’s far more likely to stop running before it has a chance to destroy itself.

  • Bob Scullion

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Apparently if you use B100 Biodiesel its been tested to BS EN 14214 and suitable for diesel engines but not for the newer ones with a diesel particle filter.

    its recommended that you change the fuel filter after the initial tankfull as it actually cleans all the crap from the tank / pipes etc.

    Just wondered if anybody had tried it.

    Bob

  • Bob Clarkson

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 11:50 am

    I only have one diesel vehicle at the moment, and the amount of fuel we use is negligible, so I wouldn’t chance it.

    I buy my vehicles, so I wouldn’t take the risk of potential problems to save a couple of quid, but if I leased I’d be down there filling the thing up right now 😎

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    so whether its good clean fuel or not, there is still a gamble on using it if you do not know if your vehicle is compatible. I doubt those stations selling it will be handing out info on who should and shouldn’t fill up, or offer any compensation to the oblivious driver.

  • Bob Clarkson

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    That’s it in a nutshell Robert.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    as said, its actually the same with certain suppliers of INK, Bob….
    they have total disregard for the expensive machines we invest in. many costing more than a top end car! 😕

  • Brian Carey

    Member
    January 31, 2011 at 4:07 pm

    A friend of mine uses it in his old Hilux, it smells like a chipper van! Sometimes it bungs up the fuel line coming from the tank to the engine and he has to blow them out with an air line! For the savings you would make i wouldnt be bothered with it! I had to rescue him stuck on the side of the road last summer! :lol1:
    BC.

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