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  • Anyone had issue with garment transfer film lately?

    Posted by Hugh Potter on February 19, 2015 at 8:38 pm

    Hi all,
    I always used to use siser films from Grafityp but being lazy I started to order a certain ‘well recognised’ brand through my garment supplier, until now I’ve had no problems but, two weeks back I lettered up a load of relatively expensive hoodies and within one wash the films were all coming off, blue and silver. Garments were worn by scaffolders, hoods for between 3-4 days and tee’s a day or two max, washed inside out at 40°c.

    As I’d had a few issues with my press -not keeping temp too well, over / underheating, I borrowed a press from a colleague and dumped my 30yr old adkins press outside. Did a handful of garments with white film earlier in the week with no apparent issue.

    Here I am now, working late to get the scaffold garments redone (at considerable cost to myself), I managed to salvage half a dozen garments and have bought in new garments and vinyl too, most have pressed on ok but I’ve now had a few causing probs again, the vinyl delaminating from the glue when hot peeling the carrier sheet,

    I’ve just looked up the spec, It is a cold peel product, I always assumed it was hot as it peels much better when hot, maybe the spec changed recently? Anyway, I followed the instructions to the letter on the remaining few tee’s and it’s still ripping film from glue when cold, this is what happened on a couple of garments last time and the whole lot failed.

    I am presuming the few I’ve had problems with (three of the twelve) are the ones using the old vinyl, the others have all gone on ok…

    EDIT: I should’ve given up at this point… a further 7 garments have been done to the letter, 165 °c, med pressure, 20 seconds, very cold peel, three are good, four have failed, meaning not just the old but the new film appears faulty as well as the material not mattering if it’s hot or cold peel.

    The heat press is the same temp as when I began pressing .. 165°c across the majority of the platen, measured with a snap-on laser themometer so I’m guessing pretty accurate. I can’t see how both presses are wrong either, perhaps I ought to go get my press from outside in the vain hope it isn’t now totally destroyed.

    I’m not going to mention brand names / suppliers at this point but, has anyone else had any problems with garment transfer film lately? this is going to cost me a good chuunk of cash, they’re not £5 hoodies that are being trashed.

    Hugh Potter replied 9 years ago 2 Members · 4 Replies
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  • Hugh Potter

    February 19, 2015 at 10:24 pm

    I’m beginning to think that these films have chamged fundamentally since I began using them. It occurred to me that the main reason I switched to these films was because they were so much easier to weed than the sticky backed Siser, they were still sticky but nothing like as much as siser so weeding was much simpler, I just cut another as a sample to press and it was heavy to weed, I know it’s only 15°c in here but it’s kjust not what it used to be…

    sending a big box of screwed up stock to the cmopany tomorrow, they can come up with the answers.

    Would like to say I’m going home now but this 2hr job has taken up 4 and put me behind a long way… Someone please remind me why I want to be doing this any more…


  • Hugh Potter

    February 19, 2015 at 10:48 pm

    my final word..

    in 8yrs or producing garments with a heat press, I’ve only had one item fail and that was due to me putting regular flex on a nylon garment in error, it literally fell off in minutes. I have just heat mpressed half a dozen logo’s onto a spare tee-shirt, all the same brand but different colours, all fine. hot peeled too, even on intricate designs, I’m certain this is is the film, it’s the only inconsistent part in a very consistent process.

  • Neil Speirs

    February 20, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    Bet you supplier blames the washing process

  • Hugh Potter

    February 21, 2015 at 3:03 pm

    They can try but seeing as half of the samples I’m going to send them still have irremovable carrier film stuck to them, they can’t really argue that there’s a problem. hot peel, cold peel, it makes no odds, the carrier is pulling letters off either when hot, or ripping them off when cold.

    I’ve made garments for this customer for three years, always the same and they know to wash them inside out at 30 degrees, 40 if dirty, though in all honesty, this is supposed to be good for 60 degree washes.

    I think I’m almost ready to bin this game!

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