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    Posted by signworxs on April 20, 2004 at 7:42 pm

    heres a simple air brush blend that took around 10 minutes to do. I use 0ne shot lettering enamel and dont bother to clear it. customer liked it and booked his van in for same treatment. Sign is 8foot by 20 inch.


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    Pete Witney replied 20 years ago 8 Members · 20 Replies
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  • signworxs

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    April 20, 2004 at 7:43 pm

    close up of DTS


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  • Jill Marie Welsh

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    April 20, 2004 at 7:55 pm

    Hey!
    Nice job. Lovely green.
    Amazing what a little paint can do!
    Love…Jill 😉

  • Nobby Thomas

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    April 20, 2004 at 9:55 pm

    Looks great, explain a little how you achieved that if you could please.

  • Alan

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    April 20, 2004 at 10:27 pm

    One Shot on vinyl ???? what prep!

    Alan

  • Nobby Thomas

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    April 21, 2004 at 7:01 am

    my thoughts exactly Alan………….. 🙄

  • Lorraine Buchan

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    April 21, 2004 at 7:37 am

    Fantastic work

    Maybe it’s not Vinyl, Maybe the area was masked off and its used directly on the substrate (?)

    Come on give us some more info please!

  • Nobby Thomas

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    April 21, 2004 at 8:01 am

    that’s very true Lorraine, I just thought I had read somewhere that it was painted onto Vinyl, prahaps I was asleep…. 😳

  • signworxs

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    April 21, 2004 at 10:52 am

    Am I right that you are questioning one shot on vinyl. Well unless you’ve been asleep for 10 years or more one shot has been used for airbrush effects on vinyl for years. The only prep needed is to scuff the vinyl with a scotch pad to give it a key, the blend is then sprayed before weeding (I use coloured chalk to highlight the cut lines). The finished effect does not need clear coating and I can guarantee the one shot will not lift with the application tape. If you don’t have an airbrush the same effect can be done with Humbrol enamel in spray cans, this also dries quick and you can tape up and apply within 30 minutes. Peter Milchamp (PKM Sign Studios) stocks the humbrol and uses the same techniques as do many other, and is regularly demonstrated at letterhead meetings as a way of spicing up vinyl graphics, very common in the states. Remember these techniques were developed pre printer days.

  • Steve Broughton

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    April 21, 2004 at 11:03 am

    What do you thin the 1 shot with Paul? all I’ve got is turps, I use createx on vinyl.

  • signworxs

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    April 21, 2004 at 11:29 am

    In all honesty steve I generally airbrush with createx auto air but didn’t have the green i wanted. I thin one shot with one shot low temp reducer (only a couple of drops per cup on my iawata) its not as volatile as white spirit and it speeds up the drying time.

  • Alan

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    April 21, 2004 at 11:55 am
    quote signworxs:

    Am I right that you are questioning one shot on vinyl.

    You’re darn right I am. 😉

    If a paint is only capable of adhering to vinyl by a mechanical key, imo it’s the wrong paint.

    Alan

  • signworxs

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    April 21, 2004 at 12:40 pm

    Hi alan

    Didnt mean my post to sound off hand and now ive read it again it seems that way, sorry. However 1shot is an alkyd resin based oil paint that gives it excellent bonding qualities to surfaces such as glass, vinyl and banners. I didnt mean to suggest that is was purely a mechanical bond. the only primer recommended is 1shot waterbased primer for non receptive materials. I’ve been using 1shot/keeps enamels on vinyl/glass/banners for over 25 years and have never had a problem with adhesion.

    Paul

  • Jill Marie Welsh

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    April 21, 2004 at 1:02 pm

    The wrong paint? 1-Shot?
    It’s running thru my veins.
    I’ve used it for the past 19 years
    on ALMOST every kind of surface.
    I paint right on vynull with it, using a quill.
    And I don’t even scuff it.
    Sticks like shit to a blanket.
    Love…Jill 😉

  • Alan

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    April 21, 2004 at 1:18 pm

    OK OK I’ll try it again. But why did I reject it years ago.

    Any paint I use on vinyl has to pass the tape snatch test.
    That is; wait for the paint to dry (I know this can be 2 or 3 days with one shot), cross hatch through the paint layer with a scalpel to form 5 or 10mm squires, stick a piece of masking tape over the area and snatch it off.
    I’m I going to find the one shot stays put !!!

    Alan

  • signworxs

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    April 21, 2004 at 1:37 pm

    sounds a bit drastic but at the same time a good test I’ll try it.

  • Jill Marie Welsh

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    April 21, 2004 at 1:39 pm

    It will take awile to pass that test Alan.
    1-Shot dries to the touch in about 4 hours,
    but can take a loooong time to completely dry.
    I always make customers wait a week before washing a vehicle and at least 2 before waxing it after it’s been painted with 1-Shot.

    1-Shot does make an acrylic UV Clear as a protective top coat.
    I always apply this when I spray vynull with aersosol paint.
    But the spray UV Clear sometimes will make 1-Shot crinkle up.
    I paint over 1-Shot using the liquid clear and a 1″ foam brush.
    When I thin 1-Shot, which is rarely, I use turpentine.
    Paint thinner makes it tend to lose its gloss.
    Love…Jill

  • signworxs

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    April 21, 2004 at 1:43 pm

    Hi jill

    is “s@*$ to a blanket” a technical term then, didn’t know you knew language like that. As for one shot in your veins I know what you mean I have to have a fix a least once a day. Have you tried 1shot reducers they work better than turps they dont thin the pigment just make the paint more workable, another old trick is to put a few drops of linseed oil on you pallet and work it into the paint, makes it flow better but extends the drying time a little.

    Paul

  • Nobby Thomas

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    April 21, 2004 at 2:38 pm

    who would have thought one post of a sign sign could create such interest HUH!!!!!! Funny ol’ game Signmaking/writing 😮 😮 😮 😮

  • brian the brush

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    April 21, 2004 at 3:48 pm

    Hi gang,
    I like Allan have had trouble in the past with one shot / keep’s paint sticking to PVC and vinyl….I thought it might be the prep’ that was to blame ….. now I use inks and have no problems ….except the smell ! ! !
    I understand that the new water based acrylics stick fine but have not tried them as yet.

    Brian.
    http://www.brian-the-brush.com

  • Pete Witney

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    May 6, 2004 at 10:51 pm

    Have just painted two logos on vinyl with one shot and household gloss on the larger areas using one shot reducer and a drop of hardener. tried the snatch test after one day and had no problems. the only time I have had a problem , I couldn’t remember if I prepped the vinyl or not

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