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  • Advise on how far to go for colour change wrap

    Posted by Gavin MacMillan on September 5, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Ok, I’ve done quite a few colour change wraps now but so far only on commercial vehicles. Got a 11 plate Seat Ibiza in next week going from black to white and I’m a little concerned about door checks etc. How far do you guys go with these things? On the vans we make sure it look one colour with all the doors closed, this often means a separate strip applied with the doors open before we start.

    Just really looking for info on how far most people go with this kind of thing or if there is a kind of standard that a customer would expect?

    Thanks, G

    Gavin MacMillan replied 12 years, 7 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    September 5, 2011 at 9:12 am

    when its a solid colour wrap you can go a bit further in disguising the cars original colour. obviously it uses up more vinyl, much more time consuming and so on… the key thing to consider here is "will your customer pay for the extras" i havent seen the job obviously, but i would also imagine there will be areas you need to patch. whilst other areas may not be possible to apply vinyl at all.
    anyway, lets say you are wrapping the back quarter, if you use the same amount of vinyl to allow you to do the back door also, but leave the back door open. wrap the back wing then work your way "inside" the car. you can do it pretty seamlessly. but keep in mind, you will have door catches etc to contend with. as said, just depends how long you want to work at it.
    personally though, i recon you should worry more about what you can hide with all the doors closed. black to white and the like is a tough one.
    maybe someone like James Deacon, Andrew Gamble or any other proffessional wrappers that do this type of thing "daily" will be able to give you some pointers if they see this post.

  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    September 5, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Doing the door shuts is a lot of extra work and you still wont be able to get to some bits without taking the door off. We dont normally do the shuts unless the customer specifically asks and wants to pay the extra cost.

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    September 5, 2011 at 9:32 am

    thanks for the info Rob – interesting about leaving the door open to wrap further in, might have a blast at that.

    Jon – I wasn’t planning to do them completely just wondering what the standard is. When you say you don’t do them, do you wrap over the gap trim and then just put the few mm excess in?

  • Jon Marshall

    Member
    September 5, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Yes, we try to go in as far as the vinyl will allow. The thing about these type of wraps is that the finishing is all important. A small mistake after you’ve beautifully squeegeed on a whole panel is the thing the customer will notice.

  • Ian Davies 2011

    Member
    September 5, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    With regards to how far to go with doing a full colour wrap we generally will wrap around 30mm inside each door shut etc ensuring that none of the original body colour can be seen from outside with door closed. We always give the option of wrapping right inside the door shut and along the inner sills etc but we quote a lot more to do this. One thing we learned very early on is make sure your customer knows exactly how far inside the door shut etc you are going to wrap as some do just assume you will be wrapping everything.

    Ian.

  • James Deacon

    Member
    September 15, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Hi Gavin, hope your well, as always sound advise but just to add I go as far as the customer is willing to pay, but this includes explaining that springs, hinges etc wont be wrapped as they may assume and also explaining exactly how different finishes will vary in price and let them choose. Try to do door shuts first and wrap onto them although tricky leading edges are facing away. When selling the wrap suggest that areas of the body are left original colour to match shuts etc sometimes put off when they realise that on some cars shuts may be as much as the exterior as time can be more than materials. Where do you stop, if you offer shuts they want the engine compartment and boot!!! sometimes they want a respray but the price and benefits of a wrap…
    hope this helps

  • Gavin MacMillan

    Member
    September 16, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Hi James all good with me ta, putting your teaching into practice more and more often, think I might be getting the hang of it!

    Cheers for all the tips on this guys – I did some tests and as it was black to white we didn’t do inside at all, it ended up giving really nice crisp lines around the doors. Customer was on holiday and wont see it till Monday but I’m confident he will be happy.

    Was an 11 plate seat ibiza, had some fun with the bumpers but sides / bonnett / roof were a total breeze for applicaton.

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