Advice required on Wrapping In Chrome?

[Mark van Dam]

NOT ILLEGAL, get em to sign a trade installer/ show/ Car show Promotion deal.
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3M chrome wrap vinyl, consider backing it up with BLACK vinyl to add depth. Un Backed is Transparent. Avery, umm, Im an Avery guy, Avery Trainer, ALWAYS follow proven product, havnt seen Avery product yet lol, go 3M, 3M is out and works, 3M has never produced a bad product, ever. I also say NO air release for wraps. YET use it for my wraps. When people read spec sheets and listen,. then it will be allowed to all.

[Robert Lambie]

Can’t agree with that Mark, air release adhesive systems for wraps have been continually changed over the years because of failures. 3M, Avery etc. included… You only have to look at both these brands having launched revised versions of their air release adhesive system to combat the issue of adhesive thinning in recessed areas which often leads to a fail. If they had got it 100% over the past few years there would be no need to change it.
I am not knocking them for the improvements, shows they are constantly developing for the better. the trouble is, its us lot out in the field that are doing the real testing.
as for those not reading the spec on the media before purchase, this comes down to lack of education on the spec.
i think this too has been recognised by the leading brands are they are also forming strict fitting regulation guidelines on these news medias.

anyway… most are sold on the basis they "already know" how to wrap. some rely on the supplier keeping them right, but lets face facts the vast majority of sign makers dont care. there for deserve their work to fail.

[Dave Rich]

So with the 3M chrome (of which I have a sample) I need to laminate this on top of a cast material….is that correct? Does it make it more manageable too?

[Jon Marshall]

Yes. And some people add a clear overlam to to prevent scratches.

[Robert Lambie]

the 3M chrome is NOT a wrap material. it is simple a chrome CAST vinyl and 3M do not warrant it for wrapping.
however, it is the chrome you will have seen used in 7/10 high end wrapped vehicles appearing on the likes of youtube and the like.

if you over stretch the vinyl it goes grey, dull because the chrome build on the rear is more or less destroyed when stretching. this is why wrappers mount the chrome onto "another" wrap film as it helps reduce this distortion when stretched (but does not eliminate it). it also doubles up the thickness of the film further aiding the application.

if any, i am not sure the benefit of lamination as that too gets scratched. it then triples the layers of media, which means 3 different types of media all trying to perform differently to the other. which may in itself lead to a fail.

[Mark van Dam]

quote Robert Lambie:

Can’t agree with that Mark, air release adhesive systems for wraps have been continually changed over the years because of failures. 3M, Avery etc. included… You only have to look at both these brands having launched revised versions of their air release adhesive system to combat the issue of adhesive thinning in recessed areas which often leads to a fail. If they had got it 100% over the past few years there would be no need to change it.
I am not knocking them for the improvements, shows they are constantly developing for the better. the trouble is, its us lot out in the field that are doing the real testing.
as for those not reading the spec on the media before purchase, this comes down to lack of education on the spec.
i think this too has been recognised by the leading brands are they are also forming strict fitting regulation guidelines on these news medias.

anyway… most are sold on the basis they “already know” how to wrap. some rely on the supplier keeping them right, but lets face facts the vast majority of sign makers dont care. there for deserve their work to fail.

I AGREE

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