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  • Advice on printer/cutter please

    Posted by Steve Underhill on April 18, 2007 at 8:30 pm

    Hi All not been about the past 6 months as I’ve been too busy with the clothing, dye sub stuff, and my Photography, but I need some help from you all if possible please
    I’m looking at a 1220mm or bigger printer/cutter as I need wider than 610mm now and have been looking at the various models on the market, I see Roland have just released 2 new versacamm’s and was just trying to get peoples opinion on which brands & models they have had good/bad results with, I see Mimaki, Roland, etc
    Also, do they print on various types of media or just vinyl, IE canvas/roll media paper etc?
    I will be primarily be printing vinyl for vehicle & signage graphics, but would like the option of using other media if they do that.
    any help greatly appreciated
    Cheers all
    Steve

    Steve Underhill replied 17 years ago 5 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    April 18, 2007 at 8:57 pm

    the likes of mimaki, versacamm and a few others will all print onto a wide range of media including paper, canvas, banner, vinyl, tyvek, flag materials and more… though some do need to be solvent compatable media, but certainly not hard or expensive to source.

    when you say you need a wider cutter, will you be scrapping the narrow cutter and running cuts and prints soley from the printer/cutter or still running on old cutter and using the wide printer/cutter as and when needing wide cut vinyl?

    sorry if thats confusing… 😕 :lol1:

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    April 18, 2007 at 9:10 pm

    I will be keeping the GX 24 as its got a years warranty left still and its such a good machine I will use it for the T shirt vinyl and transfers, and any sign jobs that require 610mm or less, the reason I would like to print on canvas is because I’m also a photographer and would like to do large canvas prints as there is a big demand for them especially the triptych type ones.
    But signs will be the main purpose of the new machine
    Thanks for the reply

  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    April 18, 2007 at 9:31 pm

    Steve we have recently bought a Mimaki it prints on to anything,vinyl, canvas, banner etc. before you make your mind up, they will all give you demo’s and sign uk is only a couple of weeks away, so go look, you have to take into account the amount of room you have for the machine, and consumables. Do lot’s of research before you do it.

    Lynn

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    April 18, 2007 at 9:40 pm

    Thanks Lynne,
    Room isn’t really a problem, I have my own shop I can rearrange, I will get the dimensions of it various models though, as I guess you can never have too much space.
    Mostly I’m concerned with what it will print onto, and with that answer you have answered my question nicely, especially interesting is the banners and canvas, which model do you have out of interest?
    Thanks for all the advice it really is invaluable when spending this many thousands of pounds.
    Would anyone recommend lease purchasing?, what are the advantages apart from the 100% tax relief? I guess its not having to pay all at once and you keep it after 4 years, but they cost a bit more that way.

  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    April 18, 2007 at 9:53 pm

    Steve JV3 with plotter can’t advise you how to pay for it, depends on your finance’s,

    Lynn

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    April 18, 2007 at 10:59 pm
    quote :

    because I’m also a photographer and would like to do large canvas prints

    you really ought to have a look at the 6 colour printers as opposed to 4 colour ones for normal sign work 4 colour printers are very very good you may look for a little more in the tones for photos

    chris

  • John Childs

    Member
    April 18, 2007 at 11:27 pm

    Steve, the 100% tax relief sounds good, but is misleading, and I’m surprised that so many accountants trot out this rubbish.

    Sure, with a lease, everything you pay is deductible at 100% BUT, on a four year lease you only part with 25% of the cost of the machine in year one, therefore you only get tax relief on 25% of the total price.

    On the other hand, if you buy the machine (bank loan or hire purchase) it belongs to you and you claim capital allowances of 25% of the total machine cost. The result is exactly the same as leasing. 25% of 100% is equal to 100% of 25%.

    Other points to consider are:-

    The comparison above works on 25% capital allowances in year one, but there are usually enhanced first year allowances available to sweeten the deal and make buying financially better than leasing.

    Buying strengthens your balance sheet to the value of the machine, whereas a lease will appear on your balance sheet as a long term debt.

    Buy and the machine is yours to do with as you will. Maybe you will want to upgrade in a couple of years time and ownership gives you that freedom. Lease and you are tied in to the four year sentence.

    I could go on but that might give you food for thought.

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    April 19, 2007 at 11:27 am

    Thanks for all the advice its been very helpful

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