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  • Advice on Mitre Cuts with Nova Trim

    Posted by David Hammond on January 26, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    We’ve alway bought in our sign trim pre fabricated, but is really something we could produce in house with a small investment in a Mitre Saw. We’re currently quoting on a reasonable order of sign frame for a client, and this job will cover the initial outlay on the saw, and increase the margin on the job greatly.

    Just after advice on where to measure the lengths from to create the correct size frame.

    eg: If making a frame for a 8×4 panel, do we measure the 8ft from the inside of the mitre, or allow a little extra?

    Phill Fenton replied 7 years, 11 months ago 6 Members · 13 Replies
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  • Unknown Member

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    We looked at getting in a laser guided mitre saw as we wanted to cut our own fabric display frames.

    The cost of what we wanted was around £35k but this was proper industrial probably over kill to be fair. Any way we decided against it and left the cutting to our suppliers.

    I’ve found you never quite get it as good as they do.

  • David Hammond

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    I know we’re not the cheapest but £35k on a saw!

    I’m not sure if Amari cut the nova trim or not? Most of our signage is elevated so a there’s a little scope for my cack handedness.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    I use a mitre saw similar to this:-
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/evolution-rag … 240v/60839

    Measure the exernal perimeter of the frame – e.g I usually add 10mm onto the size of the panel I am fitting – say 2440mm x 1220mm I would make a frame measuring 2450mm x 1230mm measured from outer point to point

  • David Hammond

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    Excellent Phil :thumbup2:

    What blade do you use on that Phil?

    I’m assuming a fine toothed blade?

  • Unknown Member

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    Phil,

    I’ve got the exact same saw in our place…Infact we have two of them…

    I must be doing something wrong….Are you using the blade that came with it?

  • David Hammond

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    He’ll tell you but it’ll cost £15k… bargain compared to your other saw :lol1: :lol1:

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 3:16 pm

    My particular saw is a draper fitted with a Draper TCT saw blade negative rake teeth

  • David Hammond

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    Cheers Phil, will hopefully be producing these in house in future.

  • Dan Osterbery

    Member
    January 26, 2016 at 6:19 pm

    we have a festool lazer guided mitre saw! its excellent for frame cutting, only paid about 650€ euros for it! Does the 35K one make tea as well?

    http://www.festool.com.au/ks-120-kapex- … -mitre-saw

    price shown is aussie dollars!

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    January 27, 2016 at 12:27 am

    Yer your doing something wrong James lol, if you are cutting aluminium you should be using a blade with negative rake they are reasonably easy to find at at most sizes/bores & the norm is about 5 degrees. They are generally a little more expensive than a standard fine toothed blade.

  • Kevin Flowers

    Member
    January 27, 2016 at 8:05 pm

    David
    make the frame to the size that you want then minus 25mm off the dimensions for the panel size this is for the standard size trim that has 30mm face & your using a 10-12mm hanging strip. Before selling up i had wall saw for panel cutting & saw as per picture for aluminium & metal cutting

    Kev


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  • David Hammond

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    June 3, 2016 at 8:17 am

    The original job we quoted on when I first asked this question didn’t come off, but I have since had a 2 jobs requiring sign frames.

    We bought a electric mitre saw for about £150, and two 6m lengths of mill finish nova trim, about £40. As the frame was only small we abraded the trim, etch primed it and then sprayed it black in house using rattle cans, and the finished job looks good, paint is surprisingly durable too.

    For larger frames we’d probably send it off the be powder coated, rather than painted.

    I quite enjoyed producing these in house, and got a lot of satisfaction making something from scratch rather than ordering it in.


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  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    June 3, 2016 at 8:26 am

    Great Job David.

    I’m a particular fan of this type of sign system though it seems to be less popular now than it was years ago. Folded pans are more in favour these days but this type of sign is easier to make in house

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