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  • Advice needed on sign frames

    Posted by Andrew Blackett on April 13, 2012 at 10:08 am

    Morning all,

    I really need some "hand holding" with this as I’ve never involved myself with sign frames before!

    We have a large palisade security fence at the front of the unit and would like to install a couple of large signs. I’ve tried dibond straight to the fence but it looks a bit slap dash!

    I could fix the top and bottom sections to the fence but do the corners come with plates to secure them? I wont have a problem fixing the top and bottom to the vertical panels but wont be able to guarantee the position for the 2 ends.

    Also….. I seem to remember that you had to install hanging strips on the top of the panels to allow for expansion. With something like dibond would this be necessary or could it just be cut to size and slotted in?

    If the sign is long how would the two panels be locked together?

    Sorry for rambling on but as I say framing is something I’ve never involved myself with and its about time I had a go at it! HELP 🙁

    Andy

    Harry Cleary replied 12 years ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • John Harding

    Member
    April 13, 2012 at 1:49 pm

    Andy why did the composite look slapdash?

    Best way with composite is a couple of runs of channel to the rear and fix behind with fence bars, looks neat and tidy both sides

    John

  • Andrew Blackett

    Member
    April 13, 2012 at 2:01 pm

    Hi John,

    I used tek screws through the front, where the join was on the two panels it opened up and looks bloody awful…. not a good advert!

    How are the channels fixed?

    Andy

  • NeilRoss

    Member
    April 13, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    I think most joints are going to flop around and open up to an extent when fixed to a fence. Can you re-jig the design to put it on two distinct panels side-by-side but separate. Maybe 50mm radius corners all around and fixed as John says.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    April 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Here you go Andy – Rob did this demo many years ago – tells you everything you ever wanted to know about building panatrim frames but were afraid to ask

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17591

    A couple of links are broken – here’s part 2
    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17587

    And part 3 is here
    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17586

  • Denise Goodfellow

    Member
    April 13, 2012 at 5:04 pm

    The men did something similar last month.

    They fixed a piece of ply to the fence, then screwed the frame to it.

    We had to do this as the local yobs pushed their feet through the fence and pushed the panel out of the frame.

    So far its holding up.

  • Andrew Blackett

    Member
    April 14, 2012 at 8:50 am
    quote Phill Fenton:

    Here you go Andy – Rob did this demo many years ago – tells you everything you ever wanted to know about building panatrim frames but were afraid to ask

    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17591

    A couple of links are broken – here’s part 2
    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17587

    And part 3 is here
    https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=17586

    Ah good stuff there, if I was using say 3mm hoarding board and had a join – if I just high bond taped a strip over the join it would hold?

    Andy

  • David Hammond

    Member
    April 14, 2012 at 11:55 am

    I would try and get a piece of composite behind the joint, stick it with VHB on one side, a lip for the other panel just to stop it bowing.

    I don’t think just VHB would hold it

  • Harry Cleary

    Member
    April 14, 2012 at 12:56 pm
    quote John Harding:

    with fence bars,

    have you a link for those John?

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