advice needed on black reflective?

[Craig Brown]

It looks white when headlights shine on it…not much I can really add to that

[Jill Marie Welsh]

It’s black in daylight (well it’s black all the time)
Like Craig sez, when headlights hit it it shines white.
I have to use it on yellow fire trucks here.
Not by law, by request.
Love….Jill

[Shane Drew]

Its not that common, but I’ve used it and yes, it reflects white.

For hidden text, lay transparent colour text over the black, and at night the text lights up like it is against a white background. Very effective but totally useless information I guess.. 🙂

[Peter Normington]

Highways Agencyy vehicles use it on their motorway patrol vehicles

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[James Martin]

tks for the replies

Thinking about using it for my own vehicle branding,

James

[Phill Fenton]

quote James Martin:

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Black reflective! Is that not a contradiction?

That’s what I used to think as well James – so don’t beat yourself up thinking you’re the only "thicko" going about 😕 😳

[Hugh Potter]

i’ve used a fair bit of reflective black and tried most of the brands out there i think. just avoid the cheapo brands, been using it for about 3yrs now.

i’ve finally done my van which includes quite a bit of black reflective (black van too).

i did consider wrapping the van in it (£££ouch) and wondering what would happen if i went through a speed camera and tripped it, my van would look very white indeed in the flash of the camera! "someone’s cloned my van your honour… look , my one’s black!"

i’ll put some pics up when i remember to bring my memory cards in from home.

Hugh

[Steve McAdie]

Might be worth mentioning that the black reflective that i have seen had a white vinyl back to it rather than the silver foil back (don’t know if all black is like that) if doing your own vehicle i would get that one as you will be glad when it comes to stripping it off. Don’t know what make it was though.

Steve

[Shane Drew]

quote Steve McAdie:

Might be worth mentioning that the black reflective that i have seen had a white vinyl back to it rather than the silver foil back (don’t know if all black is like that) if doing your own vehicle i would get that one as you will be glad when it comes to stripping it off. Don’t know what make it was though.

Steve

Probably 3M Steve. The make a white backed reflective in the CR version (680CR). It is removable with comply adhesive. It is all I use now,

[Jan Storgaard]

Hi James, i know this is overdue reply, but i have done a few reflex lately.

http://bildeco.dk/index.php/inspiration

On my site you can see some rescue vehicle we did with black reflex.
two first images in row 3 or 5. The number 112 (emergency number i Denmark)
with and without light on.

Regards
Jan

[James Martin]

Thanks Jan

Thats a good depiction of what to expect from the black reflective.

I like the volvo as well.

What kind of flourecent vinyl is that? As I cant imagine the stuff I have used being that conformable.

James

[Jan Storgaard]

quote James Martin:

Thanks Jan

Thats a good depiction of what to expect from the black reflective.

I like the volvo as well.

What kind of flourecent vinyl is that? As I cant imagine the stuff I have used being that conformable.

James

Oracal, but after 18 month its gone white 😕
If you need vinyl make ill find out after my Holiday ?
AND no its not that conformable, but smal front like this is ok

[James Martin]

HI Jan

I meant the coated bit round the bumper with the fluorescent.

James

[Jan Storgaard]

quote James Martin:

HI Jan

I meant the coated bit round the bumper with the fluorescent.

James

Yes, i thought so ;o)
As i recall it is oracal 7510, and it is not too confomable. We had to slice it a few spots where the corner-angles were high.

It fades in color after 18 month – to white.

Regards Jan

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Description
High-performance, extended-life cast fluorescent film with high visibility when illuminated by all daylight conditions. Especially effective in twilight and poor visibility conditions.

Release Liner
84# custom silicone-coated paper with special release characteristics that provide excellent weeding and release values

Adhesive
Solvent polyacrylate, permanent

Areas of Use
Designed for graphics that require high-impact visibility, such as vehicle and bus advertising, point-of-purchase displays, labels, decals, and retail applications. Ideal for use on computer-aided signmaking (CAS) equipment and can also be used for screen printing.

Printing Techniques
Screen-printing

Thickness
(without protective paper and adhesive) 6 mil

Dimensional Stability
Adhered to steel, no measurable shrinkage in cross direction; in lenght, <0.12"

Temperature Resistance
Adhered to aluminum, -40°F to +230°F, no variation

Adhesive Power
(FINAT TM-1, after 24h average), adhered to stainless steel: 4.1 lb/in

Outdoor Durability
(based on vertical surface exposure) 2 years (1 year pink and orange)

Shelf Life
(68 °F/50% relative humidity) 2 years

Seawaterability
(DIN 50 021) adhered to aluminum, after 100h/73°F, no variation

Elongation at break (across)
(DIN EN ISO 527) min. 120%

Elongation at break (along)
(DIN EN ISO 527) min. 120%

Tensile Strength (across)
(DIN EN ISO 527) min. 15 MPa

Tensile Strength (along)
(DIN EN ISO 527) min. 15 MPa

Resistance to solvents and chemicals
After 72 hours adhered to aluminum at room temperature, resistant to most oils and greases, weak acids, salts and alkalis

Minimum application temperature
+46°F

Available Widths (in inches)
15 punched, 24, 30, 48

Available Lengths
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Surface finish
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Number of Colors
6

Recommended Printing Inks
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