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A versatile vehicle for sign company
Posted by Simon C O'Reilly on May 18, 2018 at 1:33 pmHi guys,
I’m going to need to upgrade vehicles soon, but I need to put some thought into how it can be versatile.
At the moment I need to use it for both private and work use i.e, cart the family around at the weekend. However I would prefer not to be stuck for space if I need to carry some 8 x 4 sheets or lengths etc ( I don’t plan to cart the family around whilst carrying 8 x 4 sheets mind you 😉 ). As we all know in the industry, you can be carrying something small to big in the space of days
A transit or similar seems to be best for space, but not a versatile for my other needs
I was thinking a jeep would be good as they generally have a crew cab for passengers. I could possibly put a decent roof rack on top for carrying over size stuff? The downside is how un-economical they are, and the storage space isn’t as much as a van.I’v also been thinking about a large estate car? I have an estate at the moment and they are handy, probably won’t get the 8×4 in but, but once the seats go down you can fit in 8ft lengths.
I’m torn a bit with this, I’v worked for sign companies before that all had vans and were great for putting anything in, but this time around i need to think how it can work a bit more for me!
would love to hear your thoughts!
Simon C O'Reilly replied 5 years, 11 months ago 14 Members · 20 Replies -
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Take a look at the new Peugeot Traveller, Long version – Loads of room, fantastic styling, drives soooo well and LOADS cheaper than VW’s 😆
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for same reasons just got lwb traffic crew cab well pleased with it
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I saw these roof boxes the other day and thought they’d be ideal for a start out sign maker, they’re designed to take an 8ft x 4ft sheet.
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Van with removal rear seats. We had a pair of seat put in the rear, they slot in a track on the floor with a twist action hand knob. Takes 1 minute to remove them. If they need to be perminate go for a longer van or have the seats spaced so the 8×4 sheets slide between the seats.
I’d split my money up between a car and a van, just buy 2 cheaper vehicles
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I hate driving vans so I tend to hire them as and when I need it. My work is mainly vehicle graphics so I can get away with it, I’m starting to do larger items now so I may eventually buy a van but in reality how much can you fit in a vivaro/custom standard wheel base? When purchasing one is it not just better to go for something huge
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My LWB vivaro (Black with blacked rear windows and side window on door) has removable rear seats and no bulkhead, suited me for many years as a dual purpose vehicle, kids have flown the next now so don’t need the extra seats, recently sold them but they still came in handy from time to time.
I also have a second floor, this primarily covers the area that the seats didn’t occupy, plenty of room for tools underneath, when the seats are out I could fill in that slot too… any signs go on top, I also have a removable dog cage for the shop dog (Great Dane!) and half the floor can hinge the other way so as to put the motorbike in when required!
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I just sold my Caddy and picked up a Jeep Renegade yesterday for the same reasons. Starting the wrap on it today. Doing less and less installations so I think this will be just the ticket. Has a really wide boot space and the rear seats go completely flat.
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Brilliant suggestions here guys, thanks a million.
The quick release seats are great idea, didn’t know they existed. I also like the 8×4 roofbox for a smaller vehicle.
Food for thought, thanks again!
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Something to consider…
I used to run around with various estate cars and people carriers (a necessity being a single parent!) in my first 5yrs, often turning up at jobs loaded to the gunnels, roofrack straining under ladders, trestles, tray signs etc.. I just felt it didn’t look overly professional and clearly some of my customers thought to too.
When I got my van with the additional seats and signed it up, it was infinitely more professional, immediately got more attention and more work as a result.
Now my needs have changed again and while I will probably semi-retire the now 14yr old / 200k+ vivaro, she still looks goodfor her age and will be kept for the occasional job that really does still require a van but, mostly these days it’s a deliberately rare occurence that I do facia signs, I find them less profitable than vehicles and infinitely more of a pain in the 4rse, I do a fair amount of specialist countryside signage – not much money in it but it opens doors to my other interests!, but this can involve running off road on dirt tracks and through woodland etc, so when I renew I’ll be looking at a Landrover Discovery 4 Commercial, a seat conversion still offers a surprisingly large flat storage area, though nothing like the 8×4 (+) that my vivaro would do, a decent roof rack will take ladders or large signs if required. It also means that for the first time in many a year, I won’t be restricted to using a van when the wife has the R/rover, and I can turn up to meetings / site visits in something infinitely more modern and comfortable to drive!
I’m a firm believer that the image of your business is probably the single most important factor when someone walks through your door or sees your presence, I can’t tell you how many positive comments I get on my van and my new, far more professional looking office / workshop. So many of my regulars have commented on it and, I am getting a far better return rate on those "maybe" customers who leave and you don’t expect to see again, several have said that while I was more expensive, I had the more professional looking set-up!
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quote Hugh Potter:Something to consider…
I used to run around with various estate cars and people carriers (a necessity being a single parent!) in my first 5yrs, often turning up at jobs loaded to the gunnels, roofrack straining under ladders, trestles, tray signs etc.. I just felt it didn’t look overly professional and clearly some of my customers thought to too.
When I got my van with the additional seats and signed it up, it was infinitely more professional, immediately got more attention and more work as a result.
Now my needs have changed again and while I will probably semi-retire the now 14yr old / 200k+ vivaro, she still looks goodfor her age and will be kept for the occasional job that really does still require a van but, mostly these days it’s a deliberately rare occurence that I do facia signs, I find them less profitable than vehicles and infinitely more of a pain in the 4rse, I do a fair amount of specialist countryside signage – not much money in it but it opens doors to my other interests!, but this can involve running off road on dirt tracks and through woodland etc, so when I renew I’ll be looking at a Landrover Discovery 4 Commercial, a seat conversion still offers a surprisingly large flat storage area, though nothing like the 8×4 (+) that my vivaro would do, a decent roof rack will take ladders or large signs if required. It also means that for the first time in many a year, I won’t be restricted to using a van when the wife has the R/rover, and I can turn up to meetings / site visits in something infinitely more modern and comfortable to drive!
I’m a firm believer that the image of your business is probably the single most important factor when someone walks through your door or sees your presence, I can’t tell you how many positive comments I get on my van and my new, far more professional looking office / workshop. So many of my regulars have commented on it and, I am getting a far better return rate on those “maybe” customers who leave and you don’t expect to see again, several have said that while I was more expensive, I had the more professional looking set-up!
Agree completely Hugh, back in the day I ran a Passat estate, then a long wheelbase Frontera (yes, I’m afraid it was me) to double as a car & a van, not great at either to be honest. A van with quick release seats by far my favorite, I very rarely drive the car now.
I get called a badge slave for having a T5 but after 120000 miles, never missed a beat. -
Wot Hugh said :thumbsup:
If you need a dog, buy a dog, don’t buy a cat and try to change it into a dog.
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quote Kevin Mahoney:quote Hugh Potter:Something to consider…
I used to run around with various estate cars and people carriers (a necessity being a single parent!) in my first 5yrs, often turning up at jobs loaded to the gunnels, roofrack straining under ladders, trestles, tray signs etc.. I just felt it didn’t look overly professional and clearly some of my customers thought to too.
When I got my van with the additional seats and signed it up, it was infinitely more professional, immediately got more attention and more work as a result.
Now my needs have changed again and while I will probably semi-retire the now 14yr old / 200k+ vivaro, she still looks goodfor her age and will be kept for the occasional job that really does still require a van but, mostly these days it’s a deliberately rare occurence that I do facia signs, I find them less profitable than vehicles and infinitely more of a pain in the 4rse, I do a fair amount of specialist countryside signage – not much money in it but it opens doors to my other interests!, but this can involve running off road on dirt tracks and through woodland etc, so when I renew I’ll be looking at a Landrover Discovery 4 Commercial, a seat conversion still offers a surprisingly large flat storage area, though nothing like the 8×4 (+) that my vivaro would do, a decent roof rack will take ladders or large signs if required. It also means that for the first time in many a year, I won’t be restricted to using a van when the wife has the R/rover, and I can turn up to meetings / site visits in something infinitely more modern and comfortable to drive!
I’m a firm believer that the image of your business is probably the single most important factor when someone walks through your door or sees your presence, I can’t tell you how many positive comments I get on my van and my new, far more professional looking office / workshop. So many of my regulars have commented on it and, I am getting a far better return rate on those “maybe” customers who leave and you don’t expect to see again, several have said that while I was more expensive, I had the more professional looking set-up!
Agree completely Hugh, back in the day I ran a Passat estate, then a long wheelbase Frontera (yes, I’m afraid it was me) to double as a car & a van, not great at either to be honest. A van with quick release seats by far my favorite, I very rarely drive the car now.
I get called a badge slave for having a T5 but after 120000 miles, never missed a beat.Lol @ Badge Slave [emoji23][emoji23]
Same as me Kevin, my T5 Kombi wasn’t cheap, but for the extra dollar you get what you pay for, reliability and flexibility [emoji106] -
quote Iain Pearson:quote Kevin Mahoney:quote Hugh Potter:Something to consider…
I used to run around with various estate cars and people carriers (a necessity being a single parent!) in my first 5yrs, often turning up at jobs loaded to the gunnels, roofrack straining under ladders, trestles, tray signs etc.. I just felt it didn’t look overly professional and clearly some of my customers thought to too.
When I got my van with the additional seats and signed it up, it was infinitely more professional, immediately got more attention and more work as a result.
Now my needs have changed again and while I will probably semi-retire the now 14yr old / 200k+ vivaro, she still looks goodfor her age and will be kept for the occasional job that really does still require a van but, mostly these days it’s a deliberately rare occurence that I do facia signs, I find them less profitable than vehicles and infinitely more of a pain in the 4rse, I do a fair amount of specialist countryside signage – not much money in it but it opens doors to my other interests!, but this can involve running off road on dirt tracks and through woodland etc, so when I renew I’ll be looking at a Landrover Discovery 4 Commercial, a seat conversion still offers a surprisingly large flat storage area, though nothing like the 8×4 (+) that my vivaro would do, a decent roof rack will take ladders or large signs if required. It also means that for the first time in many a year, I won’t be restricted to using a van when the wife has the R/rover, and I can turn up to meetings / site visits in something infinitely more modern and comfortable to drive!
I’m a firm believer that the image of your business is probably the single most important factor when someone walks through your door or sees your presence, I can’t tell you how many positive comments I get on my van and my new, far more professional looking office / workshop. So many of my regulars have commented on it and, I am getting a far better return rate on those “maybe” customers who leave and you don’t expect to see again, several have said that while I was more expensive, I had the more professional looking set-up!
Agree completely Hugh, back in the day I ran a Passat estate, then a long wheelbase Frontera (yes, I’m afraid it was me) to double as a car & a van, not great at either to be honest. A van with quick release seats by far my favorite, I very rarely drive the car now.
I get called a badge slave for having a T5 but after 120000 miles, never missed a beat.Lol @ Badge Slave [emoji23][emoji23]
Same as me Kevin, my T5 Kombi wasn’t cheap, but for the extra dollar you get what you pay for, reliability and flexibilityNeeds a wash but I think as a sales tool, nothing compares to a van, gets plenty of notice
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Not to my tastes of course, I’m far too grown up but the young uns like it
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Finally got our new van Signwriten last week. Went out today to fit a few signs. Before we even had the signs out the van passers by were asking for business cards. Van is the way if you ask me
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T5 Kombi here too with the clippy out seats.
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more food for thought there guys, thanks for sharing your experiences…
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