A bit of a request, has anyone done anything like this?

[Peter Dee]

I think I would fabricate a "tyre" from foam board or ally and face it with a digital tyre print.
You could even get a ready made circular stand-off box and do the same.

[Lorraine Clinch]

How about a metal ‘brace’ in the shape of a ‘D’, bolted onto the fascia, cut the tyre to the same depth, with the back having a light overhang top & bottom to form flaps, slip the tyre over the brace, bolt the flaps to the fascia, tyre held in place by the metal rim inside it.

Absolutely useless at descriptions, but I can see what I mean perfectly in my head! 🙄

[Steve Goddard]

quote Lorraine Clinch:

How about a metal ‘brace’ in the shape of a ‘D’, bolted onto the fascia, cut the tyre to the same depth, with the back having a light overhang top & bottom to form flaps, slip the tyre over the brace, bolt the flaps to the fascia, tyre held in place by the metal rim inside it.

Absolutely useless at descriptions, but I can see what I mean perfectly in my head! 🙄

That is an absolutely awesome idea, thanks for that. Does anyone know if something has been done like this before? I’m looking for a bit of inspiration for the layout.

Another question thats been bugging me (i’ve ordered the signwriting book from on here and i’m hoping there will be a good description in there) how would you attach the acrylic lettering to a vinyl covered sheet of aluminum? Would it just be a case of using locating pegs to keep the alignment and then bonding them on or is there a preferred method for fitting them? The sign hasn’t got to be lit or anything so that’s a big weight off my mind.

[Tim Painter]

Sounds like he wants to have Harrods quality but with Tesco prices … 🙄

Steve don’t forget the time involved in cleaning up the panel he has, and if your fload coating it stuff can still show through.

It may be me but it seems a bit stupid spending on cut lettering but wanting to penny pinch and use an old panel.

Personally I would come up with some various Ideas and layouts not being constrained to using the old panels.

Maybe starting with just cut vinyl clean and simple all the way through to this tyre / router cut letter idea.

Through the costs / designs at your friend and let him decide.

Just my 2p’s worth.

Tim.

[Martin Pearson]

Think I would be with Tim on this one, why go to the expense of stand off letters and fit to an old board ? If he was looking to do it on the cheap then just vinyl lettering on the old board would be the cheapest way to do it. Might not say a lot for his business but would be cheap.

Flat cut letters come with a paper template which makes them pretty easy to fit, locators on the letters come in different types but the ones you will get with acrylic letters will most likely be the pop on type where the cup is normally fitted to the back board with a screw but as you are using an ally panel you would probably be best riveting them on.

Don’t know what sort of equipment you have or if you can remove the panel but I would either fit it a similar way to Lorraine or cut a slot the shape of the tyre top and bottom, push the tyre through and fix in place from the back. This is providing you can remove the board and there is space behind it.

[Ian Muir]

Hi
Sounds like you’ll be losing on this one in hourly rate anyways but if it’s a ‘friend’ job why not try do it good and get more business for the future…
You could cut a steel rim in half also, should only take 10 mins or so with a decent stihl saw, then mount rim on facia (suitably so it doesn’t pull facia down), then apply tyre over that… just a thought sir…

Ian :lol1:

[Graeme Harrold]

Price up a new sign and give him a refurb comparison thats 10-15% higher (pick something like 13.78% dosent look so blatant with an odd number :lol1: ). I like Lorraine’s idea……….why try and re-invent the wheel :lol1:

What she is trying to say is use a chop saw and cut one in half at 90 degrees (or an slight angle just off 90 for effect) and mount it to the panel to give a 3D effect. Drill and bolt the tyre to an alloy then bolt to the panel……..

Always remember the 1/2 mini sticking out of the side of a building in Nairn

[Lorraine Clinch]

quote Graeme Harrold:

Price up a new sign and give him a refurb comparison thats 10-15% higher (pick something like 13.78% dosent look so blatant with an odd number :lol1: ). I like Lorraine’s idea……….why try and re-invent the wheel :lol1:

What she is trying to say is use a chop saw and cut one in half at 90 degrees (or an slight angle just off 90 for effect) and mount it to the panel to give a 3D effect. Drill and bolt the tyre to an alloy then bolt to the panel……..

Always remember the 1/2 mini sticking out of the side of a building in Nairn

Thank you Graeme, exactly what I was TRYING to say! (Right down to the angle on the cut tyre!
You are so much more descriptive!

Lorraine

[Graeme Harrold]

quote Lorraine Clinch:

quote Graeme Harrold:

Price up a new sign and give him a refurb comparison thats 10-15% higher (pick something like 13.78% dosent look so blatant with an odd number :lol1: ). I like Lorraine’s idea……….why try and re-invent the wheel :lol1:

What she is trying to say is use a chop saw and cut one in half at 90 degrees (or an slight angle just off 90 for effect) and mount it to the panel to give a 3D effect. Drill and bolt the tyre to an alloy then bolt to the panel……..

Always remember the 1/2 mini sticking out of the side of a building in Nairn

Thank you Graeme, exactly what I was TRYING to say! (Right down to the angle on the cut tyre!
You are so much more descriptive!

Lorraine

Must be the engineer in me!!!! :lol1:

[Steve Goddard]

Cheers for the advice everyone, with regards to the aluminium sign, I went to have a look at it last night. It turns out it’s a 3mm thick acrylic board 🙄 The worst bit is with the phone numbers on it i’d say it’s around 15 years old. Fortunately with me noticing this i’ve managed to talk him in to getting new materials. So it looks like i’m off to B&Q tonight.

Am I going along the right lines by looking at using an aluminium sheet, or is there an acrylic that will take the weight of having a tyre bolted to it?

Ian: It’s my first ever job mate so as long as I get a good job done and I cover costs i’m not looking to make the earth on it. I jumped at the opertunity to do my mates garage mainly because it gives me the chance to make mistakes and learn from them without it being for a professional client.
There is the opertunity to do all the signwork on 3 or 4 takeaways if I can do a good job with this so fingers crossed this might be the start of something good

[Graeme Harrold]

quote Steve Goddard:

Cheers for the advice everyone, with regards to the aluminium sign, I went to have a look at it last night. It turns out it’s a 3mm thick acrylic board 🙄 The worst bit is with the phone numbers on it i’d say it’s around 15 years old. Fortunately with me noticing this i’ve managed to talk him in to getting new materials. So it looks like i’m off to B&Q tonight.

Am I going along the right lines by looking at using an aluminium sheet, or is there an acrylic that will take the weight of having a tyre bolted to it?

Ian: It’s my first ever job mate so as long as I get a good job done and I cover costs i’m not looking to make the earth on it. I jumped at the opertunity to do my mates garage mainly because it gives me the chance to make mistakes and learn from them without it being for a professional client.
There is the opertunity to do all the signwork on 3 or 4 takeaways if I can do a good job with this so fingers crossed this might be the start of something good

B&Q ???? You need to start looking at trade suppliers if you are serious.

Get a quote off the likes of Ashby Trade for a sign panel in the colour you want, then you can fix it to the wall without the fixings being readily visible. Their 3mm panels will take the weight of 1/2 a wheel no problem provided your fixings to the wall are sound.

Download the Sign toolbar and contact suppliers who specialise in this field rather than general DIY outlets (good for nuts, bolts etc).

Buy Phills book and bypass many common mistakes on start-up :lol1:

Finally, forget "just cover costs" price it right from the start. Bloody hard to put prices up if you get a recommendation from this job.

[Gary Birch]

quote Graeme Harrold:

quote Steve Goddard:

Cheers for the advice everyone, with regards to the aluminium sign, I went to have a look at it last night. It turns out it’s a 3mm thick acrylic board 🙄 The worst bit is with the phone numbers on it i’d say it’s around 15 years old. Fortunately with me noticing this i’ve managed to talk him in to getting new materials. So it looks like i’m off to B&Q tonight.

Am I going along the right lines by looking at using an aluminium sheet, or is there an acrylic that will take the weight of having a tyre bolted to it?

Ian: It’s my first ever job mate so as long as I get a good job done and I cover costs i’m not looking to make the earth on it. I jumped at the opertunity to do my mates garage mainly because it gives me the chance to make mistakes and learn from them without it being for a professional client.
There is the opertunity to do all the signwork on 3 or 4 takeaways if I can do a good job with this so fingers crossed this might be the start of something good

Finally, forget “just cover costs” price it right from the start. Bloody hard to put prices up if you get a recommendation from this job.

Here Here!!

[Tim Painter]

Here endith the lesson…… :lol1:

I lost the will to reply when B&Q was mentioned….

Steve do it properly or not at all.

As said If it’s going to potentially get you work do it right on materials and right on price.

Good luck.

Tim.

[Steve Goddard]

Aplogies about the B&Q comment, lack of sleep tends to mess my thoughts up.

With regards to the tyre/wheel i’m toying with the idea of drilling through the sign and fixing the mounting braket to the wall, so that will take the load as aposed to the sign taking the full brunt of it.

I’ve ordered Phill’s book, apparently it’s been dispatched so i’ll hopefully be able to sit down and get it read before I start anything. I’m going to go for the membership on here as well next month so hopefully I can learn a lot from the tutorials.

I’ve noticed a few of you talking about this toolbar, what is it? or is it blatently obvious and i’ve just missed it?

Cheers for the advice everyone, I really appreciate it. I’ll look into reviewing my costs as well, i’ve not given him a price yet so i’ll get somthing sorted once i’ve had a look into the cost of materials etc.

Thanks again

[Ian Johnston]

quote Steve Goddard:

I’ve noticed a few of you talking about this toolbar, what is it? or is it blatantly obvious and I’ve just missed it?.

https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … highlight=