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  • 4.8mtr printed sign.

    Posted by James Bell on November 29, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Hi

    We are currently doing a printed sign job, it’s the largest job we’ve done so far.

    It’s around 4.8mtr long by 1.1mtr high, in full colour and laminated.

    The customer has supplied the board, so we just have to print and stick.

    Our software tells us down to the ml how much the ink costs, but what would you guys look to charge for a sign of this size?

    Thanks

    James Bell replied 15 years, 5 months ago 4 Members · 12 Replies
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  • David Rogers

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    What would you charge for vinyl only….then add on an application fee.

    As I don’t know how wide your printers is or what grade of materials you are using it’s difficult to put a figure on it.

  • James Bell

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm
    quote David Rogers:

    What would you charge for vinyl only….then add on an application fee.

    As I don’t know how wide your printers is or what grade of materials you are using it’s difficult to put a figure on it.

    Hi
    Thanks for your reply.

    We’ve printed the sign in one go, so we don’t have tiles.
    (printer goes up to 65")

    We can work out cost of ink and media, but we are just after pricing ideas.

    Do you guys charge by the square meter, or just put a mark up on the ink/media and add labour?

  • David Rogers

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    I always charge out at LINEAR metre (virtually) regardless of the ink coverage. eg. an 0.8m x 3m will get sold at NEARLY the same as a 1.3m x 3m if it’s media & printed only – customer picks up the tab for what I have to bin.

    Everybody prices differently – some do a materials + markup + labour others will just set a figure per metre.

    Retail – have seen everything from £25 to £85 p/l/m laminated and mounted…you have to decide what your market can stand.

    Just occurred to me – you must have a price in mind / quoted the customer as you’ve already printed it…so spill…what were YOU thinking about selling it for? Then an opinion of too cheap / too dear / just right will probably be more forthcoming.

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    I personally do my up most to get as much as i can from prints…

    ill aim for between £40-£60 per square metre, but in most cases get about £50. laminated ill aim between £65-£75 per square metre.

    for volume you can afford to come down some so the likes of a flat bodied complete truck wrap ide be looking at a minimum of £50 metre square laminated.

    prices based on solvent ink onto 5-7 year oracal with equivalent over laminate.

  • James Bell

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Hi

    Thanks for the replies.

    We did the customers van a few weeks ago and have another to do next week, so we have a good relationship with him.

    No price has been agreed yet.
    The customer is in a rush to get the signs done for opening on Monday, so he just said do them.

    But the replies will help me decided a price on this job and future jobs.

    The customer is a good guy, so he will end up with a good deal.

    Thanks Again

  • James Bell

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    Another quick question.

    Any suggestions on the best way to cut out a 4.8mtr panel?

    We got a Javelin cutter but that’s only 3 mtr’s and our auto 6×2 mtr cutter isn’t at a point I can use it yet.

    Hopefully it will be the largest sign we get for a while.

    Don’t want to do another one again in a hurry 🙁

    Thanks

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 6:39 pm

    cut out an 4.8m panel… sorry mate, can you explain a bit more as im not 100% on what you mean?

  • James Bell

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 6:52 pm

    Sorry, it’s been a long day.

    I meant a 4.8m x 1.1m panel (the size of the sign I’ve printed)

    Cut most of it out now though. Just using a pair of scissors and trying to keep my hand steady.

    On large signs, is it advisable to cut the media in to sections and apply each one separate?

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 7:40 pm

    to be honest mate, you would have been best printing it in tiles with an overlap to allow for alignment. so yes, makes life easier if done this way but at the same time. if you can get the sign laid out in one go there is nothing to stop you laying up in one.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 8:25 pm

    …and after laying it (as you didn’t print with a tiled overlap) it MIGHT be advisable to print 12-15mm strips of where the joins are (to do overlays)as if they relax / shrink / lift, even the tiniest amount of gap will be massively noticeable if you cut at the joins.

    On the other hand…if you have a way of pre-joining the boards and transporting a 4.8m sign in one without the need to cut into sections…no issues…but then it has to be installed in one…

    Dave

    in the future…print in tiles with an overlap (saves a lot of grief!)

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 8:52 pm

    That is a good point, the board won’t be 4.8m long and will have to have joins so join the graphic on the join of the board 😕

    or am I missing something 🙄

  • James Bell

    Member
    November 29, 2008 at 8:55 pm

    Thanks for the advice guys.

    It’s just about done now, but next time I’ll make sure to tile it.
    Should start making use of the features in Caldera RIP 🙁

    I was thinking about making a strip for the main join, which I’ll do tomorrow if I got time before the customer comes.

    I would have looked in to, how to do it properly a long time ago, but unfortunately its a job that came in quickly and has to be done by tomorrow. 🙄

    It’s also the first job we’ve done since the workshop has been setup, so things are a bit hectic.

    I’m just glad we only have a van to do next week, so we can slowly build things up.

    Thanks again for all the help guys!

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