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20×10 Flexi-face Lightbox installed & Complete
hi all
few weeks ago i was on the boards looking for some help locating a source for flexface signs. in the end i used signbade uk, friendly guy, pretty helpful too… they dropped the sign off first thing and the delivery guy spoke me through the installation. all seemed straightforward enough and away he went.to put you in the picture, the sign is 20 foot wide x 10 foot deep.
it was typical Glasgow weather… very windy,,, pouring of rain (which wasn’t helping my flu any 😮
to begin with i thought i was just gonna chuck the towel in right away…
the sign came in four sections, heavy at that… and the bottom of them must have been about 13 foot off the ground i think.. when we moved them into place the wind and rain was a bit too much.. after an hour or so things calmed down and off we went.picture one
the first picture shows section one in place. ide say this has to be most difficult because it must be “perfectly level” because if its not, and the other sections link onto it, over the 20 foot any running off would increase a fair bit over the lengh of the sign.
anyway…picture two
all the sections are now in place. all running spot on level and ready for the bulbs to be installed and wire connection’s.picture 3
here you see all the bulbs in place and wiring rigged up, Ive turned the bulbs on to make sure all is OK before applying the skin.
if you look close you will see black bin liners over the gear trays. i did this because the rain came on heavy and i didn’t know if i was gonna have to abandon ship.picture 4
here i have the skin loose but in place. from here i go around the whole sign cranking the brackets to tighten the skin nice and even over the whole sign making it drum tight.picture 5
after the skin is drum tight i apply some aluminum edges to the sides, top bottom to hide the brackets etc and complete the job, just in time as the rain was coming back on and it was starting to get dark.(for the record)
the design work was customers own. it is a long standing company logo and colours. not my cuppa-tea at all, another good customer of ours that use red on navy blue. 😕(Click on images to blow up in size)
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That’s a hard day’s work matey, especially in rotten weather. What kind of fixings did you use to fix such a large, heavy sign to cladding?
Oh, and judging by that bloke on the tower in the final picture, I’d guess the sign is about 2 foot tall? 😀 You’d be disappointed if I didn’t say it! 😉
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another day at the office eh rob
good job bud
roffs
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What was the total time for erecting that little sign then Rob?
L JPS Down here in England we call them there long shiny things “tubes”.
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nice one rob!! 😛
great seeing the different stages of the sign….now i know what a flexi sign looks like and how it’s put on the building!! 😛 😛
great stuff 😀Nik
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We’re back to 70 degree weather with some nice waves….boy it sure does suck to be in California. 😀 😀
You need to move your operations to the west coast Robert. (-)
Thanks for the brilliant demo/post. As always, very informative.
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Well done Rob nice demo
What fixings did you use to attach to cladding
Can you give us full supplier info (as we are about to do one of these and havent heard of the guys you used, I was going to use Kestrel).
Did you print the skin if not who did you useFor John
We use the word tubes in Scotland also but it is a descriptive word for half wits
Regards Adrian
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Job well done, great!!! Thanks for showing us. We haven’t had the pleasure of doing one of these yet … fingers crossed though 😀
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thanks for the comments everyone 😛 😉
the skins were not printed by us, the manufacturers of the box did them.
i wouldnt advise printing anything bigger than your machine can handle in one peice… as the joins would show a mile away when illuminated.
im guessing this was printed using a 3 metre wide printer.the fixings i used were “wood-tech screws” they are the same ones i use for all cladding work but without the self tapping tip. you have to dril a pilot hole about 4-5mm then in with the wood-tech. the wood tech is a beefy threaded screw that really grips the cladding no sweat at all…
i also had some 5 inch stell-tech bolts to basically catch the building steel frame work but i didnt feel it needed them at all after using the wood-techs.the job start to finish took me and two guys about 5 hours. it could have been faster but because of the cold high winds and constant rain it felt like years…. 😕
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Great work Rob – That’s a monster of a sign to fit.
I did a flexi face a few years ago, this was about a quarter of the size and consisted of two sections – even so it was a difficult job to fit but satisfying when completed.
These types of jobs give me sleepless nights (I wake up early in the morning in a cold sweat on the morning of a major installation) but then again these jobs can be very lucrative.
Here’s a picture of me putting up part of a flexi-face sign case:-
Mines not as big as yours – but it’s pretty big…
(Did I say that out loud – or just think it… 😳 )
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Nice demo rob,
But why no hard hats, or saftey harness?
Peter -
…just being a little picky but the illumination does look a little uneven on the finished pic – Most of the flex face ones I’ve seen always amaze me by how well diffused the lighing is in such a thin face material.
I guess you cant use led’s for lighting this size of sign just yet 😀 !How long do these printed skins last by the way ?? (UV/weather wise I mean)
Nigel
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nice one phil… is that a hoist thats lifting your lightbox into place?
yes its a big one isnt it… 😮 🙄
peter your right mate… well spotted.
i am not lying here… but… we have 4 viz vests in back of our cherry picker. 4 hard hats, 4 harnesses for the bucket, road signs, cones, flashing becons and more. in the pictures shown we are all soaked… apart from me i think coz i had rubber skins on.. :lol1: to be honest thats NOT the excuse, we basically arrived and after getting things setup started right to work. as for harness… i hate the bloody things although i know they should always be worn, we spent a packet on ours… but my thoughts are that if the cherry picker is gonna go over or something like that. i dont want to be harnessed in! i know there is more likely you fall out the bucket but thats my reason.
i was pulled up on a site only a few weeks ago for this reason. of course i went into the back and put it on, but not until i had a waffle with safety guy that i didnt like wearing them. :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: -
Can I get more info on these screws and where to get them, we do a lot of this work and tend to pop rivet but this is not a good method
Regards Adrian
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i thought that too nigel… but as it got darker the face becomes more even lit for some reason… when we first illuminated it it was very patchy but as sun goes down it starts to look nice…
uv stability i dont know>?
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What’s weird is that the hotspots seem to run vertically, whereas the tubes are horizontal. Is the print a bit patchy? I know it is difficult to photograph illuminated signs as the camera always seems to exaggerr…exaggger…exajer……show up the tubes more.
Anyways, job well done Rob. Good job you waited until after that before you decided to chop all your fingertips off.
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adrian ill send you info from work mate, ill have to look out details.
if you look in demo section just now under 40 ft by 8 foot rynabond sign i think it shows same type but different head on them. explains how they work too i think.
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Rob,
I hate harnesses as well, But If showing a demo, do it properly, Then others may take note on how it should be done professionally.
There is often talk of cowboys on these boards, Don’t give anyone an opportunity to prove it.
Peter -
I fully agree with you Rob – I refuse to wear a “safety harness” for the same reason. I reserve the right to think for myself and decide whether I think the likelihood of falling from a bucket is higher than the risk of a platform toppling.
I think most people using these platforms on a regular basis feel the same way. The last time I hired a cherry picker (a few weeks ago) I was handed a safety harness still in it’s original wrapping as part of the hire. This was handed back (still in it’s original wrapping at the end of the hire) I suspect that many are against using these.
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this isnt a demo mate… just stages of a sign that had been asked about before, so i thought ide show the other pics too… note its in show us your stuff :lol1: i always have camera handy and take pictures all the time, force of habit nowadays… :lol1:
fair point though mate… i know what you mean. 😉
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we bought about 7 in total, cost about £140 each i think… in fairness we were working on a large roof with slight slope. but! the harnesses were connected to cherry picker so we walked about on roof which was almost falt and like a football pitch. we were all conected to cherry picker as instructed by site safety spec… my problem with this was… what if one of the JCB’s zipping about the yard below us clipped the cherry picker… thats 7 men dragged off a roof 50 foot up….
surely it would have been safer to bolt us to the NEW building?
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My only negative comment would be RED ON BLUE 😮 (chat.) (:) (hot) :no1: :angry: :thumbdown: :doh: :cryhard: :shake:
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quote Robert Lambie:(for the record)
the design work was customers own. it is a long standing company logo and colours. not my cuppa-tea at all, another good customer of ours that use red on navy blue.couldnt agree more mike 😉
even the company that printed it asked me if i was sure this was the colours i wanted to illuminate?got a couple of other big customers with exact same colours 🙄
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Could be worse though. blue on red?
Peter -
Educate your customers Rob, and seperate the blue from the red with a white outline 😀
They might not realise what you have done to their design, but will surely notice the improvement.
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tried it mate, tried it with this one and tried it with grahams dairy, none would listen… 🙄
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I know what you mean Rob. Sometimes you get clients that insist they know better. In the end you just have to do as they ask and take their money 😎
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