16 YEAR OLD HOW MUCH WAGES

[Peter Normington]

Mark, I would just go for the minimum wage, + a bit extra

http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg/ac … 1074403799

With a proviso that if the person does well an increase after say 6 months?

Peter

[Nicola McIntosh]

i would go with what peter suggests mark……and try not to tell him all your secrets…..he might start up on his own one day 😕 😉

nik

[Martin Cole]

I would go along with what Peter says Mark.

Just be warned often family & friends don’t mix in business, easy to upset people along the line if you need to get shot of them etc.

[Les Woods]

Hi Mark, I agree with Martin about friends and family – someone I know had a nightmare time when he had to get rid of his nephew who was just using it as layabout time.

If you do take someone on, don’t forget to check about insurance and employees rights (holidays, sickpay, training etc) – do it all before you take someone on, not after otherwise you’ll you could find yourself in a tricky situation.

Hope this helps!

[Peter Munday]

Mark, never,ever,ever employ family or friends!!!!!!

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Peter Munday:

Mark, never,ever,ever employ family or friends!!!!!!

i agree………employed my 2 younger sisters for a while………never again did’nt work (bully) 😉

nik

[Lynn Normington]

Mark I would sort of agree with Peter M unless the boy/girl is enthusiastic willing and wanting to learn , unfortunatly what I have seen of todays youth they wait for direction, instead of thinking for their selves ???

Lynn

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Lynn:

unfortunatly what I have seen of todays youth they wait for direction, instead of thinking for their selves ???

yep spot on lynn…………its called common sense 😉

nik

[Robert Lambie]

give them a Lolly-pop, clip them round the ear and tell them to keep shovelling 😉

i have sacked two good mates and a cousin. needless to say they are no longer good mates :lol1: 😉

[David Rowland]

you do loose your friends in business after a while or disagree with their point of view…

with regards the sixteen yearold… I think it is more wise for the lad to take the education route as much as they can… if they insist on the job then have a look into training qualifications where they spend 1 day a week away from the premises doing NVQ in something and then you can pay training wages… think government top it up as it was the sort of thing I was on. I cannot speak about today but I certainly would talk to your local collegue as they may have the right advise about taking young people on.

[Shane Drew]

quote Peter Munday:

Mark, never,ever,ever employ family or friends!!!!!!

mmm….. I have worked with my parents for 27 years, my sister worked with them for 26 years until she was offered a job she would have been mad to refuse. My wife worked with us for 4 years until she got pregnant.

I have employed both my parents for 6 years. My sister is now my wifes boss, and my sister also employs a number of my wifes friends.

It is not hard to employ family or relatives, each has to play his/her part in the daily running of the business, promoting a ‘team’ atmoshpere is the key. Being able to ‘turn off’ after work and be a family out of hours is also important.

True, not everyone can work with family or friends because jealousy is usually the killer.

That said, I’d agree with Peter in terms of wages, but link any raises to productivity or the teenagers willingness to improve and learn.

Don’t discuss business out of work hours with him tho, as he’ll feel that you are taking time out of his personal life, and the resentment will start then. That is when your problems will begin with him (and his parents).

[Mark Tuffin]

Thanks to all of you for your comments, i sort of agree with some of you
but this lad is so enthusatic asked all the right questions and never once mensioned wages, i am at the point now where i could not possibly earn any more money by myself, i am doing to many hours and i have a young family so i see this as the only way forward .
thanks to all Mark t

[David Rogers]

quote Mark Tuffin:

……i am at the point now where i could not possibly earn any more money by myself, i am doing to many hours and i have a young family so i see this as the only way forward .
thanks to all Mark t

I the long run a good apprentice can be an great asset. But for the next wee while unless you just want a floor sweeping tea boy, you’ll be training (losing time), checking everything they do (losing time), fixing balls-ups (losing time & money).
Two things can happen – three actually: you’ll work more to keep on top of your jobs or your work will drop in volume until he’s up to speed and/or you’ll go nuts.

The apprentice I had working for me (at another place) left to pursue other interests (TA – Iraq) – came back jobless so would help me out for something to do. Sometime you do get a good one, rare, but it happens. Now he’s the production assistant for the parent co. and enjoying his stress filled days.

For the sake of your own sanity & any friendships – don’t be a mate first, and a boss second. Keep it as professional as possible at work. I learnt that lesson – fraternizing with the troops after hours makes it difficult to discipline them 8 hours later when they walk in late still hungover from the night before!!