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garment vinyl problems

Posted by David Mitchell on 14 February 2016 at 17:35

hope someone can help me out,

got a bn-20 installed last week and have been printing t shirt vinyls,

all looks great until one customer said about some slight fading after one wash.

i ran some test and even bought a few diferent brands. i have attached a photo of a t shirt after one wash, garment inside out, temperature etc below what it says is the limits.

someone please help 🙁 i have a load of work similar to do but i have no confidence at the minute and totally scared to sell anymore incase it all comes back.

David Mitchell replied 9 years, 8 months ago 4 Members · 11 Replies
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Kevin Flowers

Member
14 February 2016 at 18:06

David
it has always been an issue which is why it never really took off, thats not to say there aren’t materials out there that work. Siser does a heat applied clear that helps to protect the print the other is to make sure the profiles and print temp is correct just because print looks good doesn’t mean its bitten in. Try speaking with Grafityp they do Siser products

Kev
David Mitchell

Member
14 February 2016 at 18:14

thanks kevin, i have been looking at the laminate that siser do.

one problem is, i was buying transfers in and been supplying that same logo for a year with no problem, until i print my own and they are terrible after a wash 🙁 at my wits end
Denise Goodfellow

Member
14 February 2016 at 18:26

Did you leave to gas off for 24 hrs?

We too have had similar problems with the mimaki, leaving longer before pressing onto a garment helps
David Mitchell

Member
14 February 2016 at 18:29

yes denise was also left for 24 hours after pressing onto the shirt too.

i sent samples back to where i purchased it from, but as its the weekend they are closed.

i cant find anywhere to check the temperature kevin spoke of ?
David Mitchell

Member
14 February 2016 at 19:08

printer heater is fixed at 35 degrees on the bn 20 since found that out, which matches vinyl spec.
Kevin Flowers

Member
14 February 2016 at 21:55

Simon
you need to leave prints before pressing as the heat from the press will cure the ink before gasses have have escaped, not saying it will cure problem but worth trying. Was your original supplier using a Roland, not used a BN20 so can only go on my previous machines. Speak with Roland as well they have a wealth of knowledge.

Kev
Denise Goodfellow

Member
14 February 2016 at 22:20

Garment printing can be frustrating at times.

We have polos that have a printed badge type logo on them, we have a clean polo every day, so they get washed at least twice a week. The logo is still visible, yes alittle faded now after at least 12 months wear.

Yet we too have had customers who have complained about the logo fading.

While we give out washing advise and they always say I washed it on a cool wash, sometimes you gotta think – are you sure you washed it correctly :banghead: :banghead:
David Mitchell

Member
15 February 2016 at 07:09

thank you both for your input, much appreciated, i will keep the post updated
Dan Osterbery

Member
15 February 2016 at 19:16

Leave 24 hours before pressing, cool wash, and no where near the tumble dryer!! We have found xpres, and the magic touch soldark, are the most hard wearing transfers! Goodluck
David Mitchell

Member
16 February 2016 at 16:29

thanks guys, making slight progress, problem really seams o be with the red, other colours holding up not bad
David Mitchell

Member
4 March 2016 at 13:58

hey guys thanks for everyones input.

the outcome,

i was sold media which is not compatible with "eco sol max 3" inks

the company gave me a refund on the media i purchased, and to compensate sent me media that appears to be performing well and holding its colour after washing.