window lettering – how do you do it?

[Jayne Marsh]

Ive done both recently, I lettered two windows on the outside because they had a green panel blocking the window from the inside. I did 5 windows on the inside with the vinyl reverse cut so it could be seen from the outside. Just depends on the situation. If you apply from the inside then the lettering is less likely to be picked off by people passing in the street.

[James Martin]

Tks jane

So the lettering wont spoil then if i just use 651 with the sun shinning on the glue side. This will be the first time I have done this 😛

jimmy

[Jill Marie Welsh]

I usually apply vinyl to the outside as it is more visible.
I usually use Oracal 651 as it seems easier to work with on glass.
I’ve hand-lettered from the inside on occasion, but I paint window splashes on the outside.
love….Jill

[Marcella Ross]

Perfectly fine to do it in reverse james. The glue will ‘cure’ and you wont see it at all. I normally apply to the inside of the glass, but as said it depends on whether or not it’s possibly going to get vandalised 😕
Also means you don’t need the rain to stop to get it done! 😀

[Jayne Marsh]

I prefer working on the inside in reverse, as Marcella says the glue will cure over 24 hours or so and any frosting that you see will disappear. Also its usually warmer and drier working onthe inside :lol1: Im becoming a fair weather sign maker

[Neil Churchman]

James,

One thing to consider when you apply vinyl inside a glass window,
is will the reflections on the glass from the outside affect
the viewing of the graphics.

Neil

[Jeremy Howes]

I too have an inside window lettering job circa 300 x 500, Blue text with second layer white flood coat, is this best done wet or dry?
Jeremy

[Marcella Ross]

I would do that dry, in particular the text. If you flood the glass the text will never stick…. you won’t get the app tape off 😕

[Jeremy Howes]

Many thanks Marcella and apologies to James for hijacking his thread,
Text on dry, could I then apply the white back layer wet? it’s just that I do not yet have the confidence and skill to apply large (at least to me)sections of vinyl dry.

Jeremy

[Lorraine Clinch]

Hi Jeremy, as Marcella says, do the text dry, and use a fairly light spray to apply the white (don’t soak it, or you’ll be all day!)
A light spray will give a chance of lifting if you should make a mistake.

BTW James, I also apply to the inside of windows, cut in reverse.

[Jill Marie Welsh]

For wet apps with glass (occasionally you have to) get Rapid Tac 2.
It works well.
When I have to do a layered wet app on glass, I use RT2 for the first layer…flooding well. It sticks almost too fast for me!
When I just spritz the fluid I always get more bubbles.
Then for the second layer I use regular Rapid Tac.
(This is if I was working on the outside of the glass, if from the inside I would do as Lorraine says.)
I usually spray the transfer tape with it as well to aid in removal.
It helps to cut registration marks when applying to glass if working in layers.
I have applied vinyl dry to the outside of windows even in winter here.
love…Jill

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[Lorraine Clinch]

Hey Jill, the law Offices window looks great! Butoutside? Do you not have a problem with young oiks over there? Any window signed on the outside over here will be picked off on no time.

[James Martin]

Hi

Lots to think about.

I was also gonna do it in black with a white outline.

Reading another topic has made me think about how to layer as well without havign unsightly bubbles.

Think I may leave a space and avoid overlap completly.

Tks everyone for your input what do you think?

Ye Jill nice work, but dont you have bored teenagers over there?
I myself would find it hard to resist picking a sign off never nind a half canned youfff!

If you were going through a quiet spell you could send someone round to do it for you just for the repair job lol. (just kidding by the way)

tks Jimmy

[Jill Marie Welsh]

Jimmy…black will have absolutely NO contrast if used on a window.
(see the home-made lettering on the inside of the window job I posted?…can you read it?)
You would be further ahead just using white.
And the kids around here are too busy doing heroin and playing with guns to be bothered with peeling window lettering.
BTW I did have to re-do that Morrow window due to the failure of the Avery A8 black vynull.
love….Jill

[Alison Falzon]

quote Jill Marie Welsh:

And the kids around here are too busy doing heroin and playing with guns to be bothered with peeling window lettering.

Maybe my neighbourhood isn’t so bad after all…..!

[James Martin]

Jill

I wanted to do it just in white but just because thats how I saw it in my mind.
My inexperience let the customer reason that white would be good in the day and black would be good for at night with the shop well lit. ( its a fast food place BTW open late.)
Thanks for that, this is my first shot at this and I would much rather do one layer.
If he still wants two colours then I will advice him for a red or orange with white now.

fantastic.

jimmy

p.s ‘Heroin and Guns’ The quality of your work belies those problems, I got the impression of idylic from your attachments.