Window Laminating Film supplier

[Martin Pearson]

David, you will need to find out not only what film is required but also if there is anything else you need to do to ensure they conform. Sure a window film installer will be able to give more details but you may have to provide paperwork confirming it meets certain standards and also you use to have to mark the window with something like a BS number if I remember correctly for certain films.

[Jason Bagladi]

From my limited glass knowledge, all new domestic glass installs must use laminated glass which must display the BS number. Usually sandblasted in the corner of each piece.

I don’t think you will find a laminate supplier who will put a BS number on for various reasons, such as,
The edges of the glass, if it is already in the frame will not be laminated
The supplier doesn’t know if it is applied properly.

[Stuart Miller]

Hi David
My advice would be to leave it alone and pass it on to a window tint business.
Clear laminates to comply with BS safety glass recommendations are not a place to learn how to install window film.

There are many thicknesses of film and I find quite often that the people asking for the film do not understand the technical specs and what is needed or required by law. It often requires a site visit, a glass survey and a discussion based on experience and training. Even after 5 years of installing window film full time I often have to refer clients to my suppliers consultant to convince them of the correct film.
That’s before you try installing it. Clear safety films are notoriously fickle in getting a good finish. A meticulous process of preparation, cleaning and installation method are needed based on training and practise. They are a lot more difficult to install correctly than your standard solar films.

They need to then be marked with the revelant BS sticker as a requirement that they have been treated.
An Applied Film sticker is required to show what BS test the film has been subjected to. Film manufacturers will supply the details.
Then the film manufacturer will usually only warranty the film if the installer has been on a training course.
So really you need training for giving advice on the right film, on installation
and marking stickers.
Its a great line of work to get into and I’m not trying to put you off exploring the work opportunities but its not something to just have ago at.

[Stuart Miller]

quote Jason Bagladi:

From my limited glass knowledge, all new domestic glass installs must use laminated glass which must display the BS number. Usually sandblasted in the corner of each piece.

I don’t think you will find a laminate supplier who will put a BS number on for various reasons, such as,
The edges of the glass, if it is already in the frame will not be laminated
The supplier doesn’t know if it is applied properly.

Afraid this is all wrong Jason

Only glass in "Critical Locations" needs to satisfy the 1994 BS for glazing. Critical locations are around doors and on windows which are below a certain height off the floor.
It is not stipulated that glass must be laminated just that it satisfies the BS. This means it can be fully laminated glass, toughened glass or Applied Film.
Markings are required to show what method has been used. These should be sandblasted on most glass, as you say, but film requires the addition of vinyl stickers. Often even treated glass does not have the markings on every pane as many glaziesr cut the bit of glass off which had the markings. toughened glass should have the markings as it is not cut but manufactured to the correct size but then the markings sometimes gets lost in the frame.

ALL safety laminate suppliers are required to give full specifications of their adhesive properties, their puncture test properties and their peel test properties so a BS sticker can be applied. For example the sticker would say
EN 12600 2B/AF. EN is the european requirements for the old BS. The 2 shows a 50KG weight swung against the pane from a height of 450mm.
the B shows that the glass fragments would be held together.
the AF shows that the glass is treated with Applied Film.

The section which is not laminated in the frame does not matter as the BS is a requirement that the glass just breaks safely and a film holding the shards together is a satisfactory solution. If it is a requirement that the pane does not fall out of the window then there are many types of frame retention systems available but these are not required for these sort of general domestic situations.

As far as the supplier knowing if correctly fitted. That is down to training and endorsing fitters. It is definitely possible to buy film and apply it without traing but any reputable supplier would distance them selves from a warranty without knowledge of the installers background, training and ability.

[David Hammond]

Cheers Stuart.

I will speak with my glazing contact and see whether there will be enough work of this kind to warrant getting trained and buying in the material.

It is an aspect of the business I’ve never explored, and might be just what I need to boost income. 😕

[David Rogers]

Clear film: It’s always a laugh when your client phones you up complaining that it’s not been done…