why does the magenta cadet ink go pink?

[Paul Goodwin]

Could have picked up a air block Nik when it ran out but was still trying to pump ink a little bit?

[Roy Roffey]

hi nic,

funny that, the same thing happened to me today. as Paul said i had a few air bubbles in the tubes – quick pull thru with the syringe and all sorted now.

I’m still learning with the printer and still having trouble printing then laminating and re-cutting (hot) (hot)

still bloody good toy eh

roffs

[Nicola McIntosh]

thanks paul 😀

yep brilliant machine roy….i took a bit of time getting the print cut-laminate bit got it now though 😀 gives a shout if your still stuck…cause i know what its like 😕

so syringe it is then 😉

cheers folks

nik

[Roy Roffey]

cheers nic i might take you up on that 😉 😉

ps wear some gloves cuse the inks bloody hard to get out of your skin – trust me im a little red at the mo !!

roffs

[David Rowland]

sounds like capping station has not got a good seal with printhead.

Is it dirty on the underside of heads or capping station rubbers not moist?

Does it take a while to suck ink through?
Is the waste container under the machine empty?
Is the machine spirt level square?

Sorry.. dont know the cadet well enough as u know but.

If your about 5-6 months in, you could be coming up against a failing pump.

[Phill Fenton]

I had something similar when a cartridge ran out. I replaced the cartridge but for some reason I ended up with air in one of the pipes. A pull through with the syringe solved the problem – but I still don’t know waht caused it in the first place. If you’re still having a problem nik take off the fron cover and check for air in the pipes leading to the print head. These should always be solid with ink

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Phill:

take off the fron cover and check for air in the pipes leading to the print head. These should always be solid with ink

have had a look and there seems to be ink in them….so my other question is, where do i stick the syringe in 😕

nik

[Nicola McIntosh]

just seen where the blocks are in the yellow tube at the top of the heads, how do i get into those? 😀

thanks

nik

[Roy Roffey]

just catching a bit of this, have you undone the connecting piece on the pipes – attached the syringe and drew the ink back yet ??

[Stephen Morriss]

I just usually draw the ink through from the pipe that goes into the waste bottle, one for yellow/magenta and one for black/cyan. I’ve never split the pipes at the join before the pump.

I’m not sure how the pump works but I think it’s like one of those ones that pump blood, the head turns with legs on that squash the tube, so pulling the ink through past the pump shouldn’t damage it, anyway that’s the way I was shown.

I do this very slowly as there is a membrane in the heads that can be damaged by pulling the ink through to fast, or so I was told by the engineer that brought my Cadet.

Steve

[Nicola McIntosh]

thanks guys…ive got it sorted i pulled the ink through the magenta pipe its pretty scary doing it for the first time 😮 incase i burst the tubes anyway thats it back printing 😉

nik

[David Rowland]

quote Stephen Morriss:

I just usually draw the ink through from the pipe that goes into the waste bottle, one for yellow/magenta and one for black/cyan. I’ve never split the pipes at the join before the pump.

I’m not sure how the pump works but I think it’s like one of those ones that pump blood, the head turns with legs on that squash the tube, so pulling the ink through past the pump shouldn’t damage it, anyway that’s the way I was shown.

I do this very slowly as there is a membrane in the heads that can be damaged by pulling the ink through to fast, or so I was told by the engineer that brought my Cadet.

Steve

yep, spot on steve… exactly how it works, I have sucked into at the pump tube split

[Robert Berwick]

Another thing to be aware of is the possibility of split tubes inside of the pump. A B&P engineer told me recently that you should pack the pump with plastics grease every 6 weeks! Never got told this on installation and therefore have had 2 lots of split tubes. This means the pump can’t create the vacuum needed to pull the ink through the heads.

Theres quite a few foibles with these machines aren’t there?

Robert

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote Stephen Morriss:

I just usually draw the ink through from the pipe that goes into the waste bottle

never thought of doing that…. 😀 a bit sensible too….i didnt like the idea of splitting the tubes…. 😕

nik

[Alan Drury]

The more I read about these machines, the more I’m glad I haven’t got one and buy my print in. Long live vinyl!!
Alan D

[Chris Wool]

Alan i think your right notice they are all cadets thou i have had my soljet pro 2 for over 3 years and havent had any of these games. 😀 yet!

chris

[Peter Shaw]

The pipes that go to the pump have a joint in them. This unscrews and seperates. The syringe can then be attached by screwing onto the joint and the ink pulled through.

Early machines did not have the screw type joints which meant fitting the tube onto the end of the syringe. This is the cause of the colourful fingers.

Peter

[solvent]

if you go into MENO–INK CONTROL–EMPTY MODE

you can change the setting from continue to stop.

it sounds like yours is set to continue which means that when the cart runs out the printer just carries on and if the print is long enough it will empty the ink lines. this will have created air locks in the supply lines that will need to be filled.

if you select STOP from the menu then when the cart runs out it will prompt you to replace it and then continue the print.

stop is the default setting from factory.(roland).

This is the same for the soljet range also.

Mark.

[Nicola McIntosh]

quote solvent:

it sounds like yours is set to continue

nope that was the first thing i checked..it was on stop 😕

nik