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  • which type of vinyl can i use?

    Posted by Ben.Dexter on 16 October 2007 at 00:29

    Hi,

    Ok I should be going to print out some moc graphics this week to make sure I have everything as it should be before I order a ton of vinyl,however I am confused as to weather i should be using RGB or CMYK colors on the graphic files,I need to be able to get bright colors for Motocross graphics which i don’t believe is possible with CMYK?

    Another question is,the printer I will be using uses some form of special ink to penetrate reflective vinyl,will this be ok to use on normal vinyl?

    Thankyou,

    Chris Wool replied 18 years, 1 month ago 8 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Chris Wool

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 00:43

    i would take both file types, some rips see them slightly differently.

    quote :

    Another question is,the printer I will be using uses some form of special ink to penetrate reflective vinyl,will this be ok to use on normal vinyl?

    never heard of this what i can tell you is some reflective vinyls will not accept ink very well at all.

    not getting much help from your printer person are you.

    chris

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 02:22
    quote :

    Another question is,the printer I will be using uses some form of special ink to penetrate reflective vinyl,will this be ok to use on normal vinyl?

    I’m not sure what this is either. Screen printers use a different ink on reflective to normal vinyl.

    On the other hand, I use Techink on my Roland sc540ex for both reflective and normal vinyls.

    3M 180c is digital printable, and I also print on Orajet with excellent results. Just printed 5 metres of emergency exit signs as I’ve been ready the boards actually. 😉

    Sounds like your print supplier may be talking up the ink as special for the reflective to get the price up a bit 🙄

    I agree with chris, get both ripped and see the difference. Your colour spectrums will be different with each sample

  • Warren Beard

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 09:41

    If the printer is a cmyk printer then RGB might just cause you more hassles with profiles and might help to keep it as cmyk

    but agree with taking both options and print them both and then decide.

    cheers

    Warren

  • Ben.Dexter

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 13:58

    Thanks guy’s,

    so if I do end up having to print with CMYK is it possible to get Bright colors still?

    also the vinyl he sues is for Reflective House numbers,he printed onto this vinyl with the OEM ink and it just sat on top and you could wipe it off the next day,so he ended up having to buy some other ink that would ‘penetrate’ this reflective vinyl.

    I will find out more when I go up their,until then i’m just going off what he can explain over the phone.

    Thanks for your help,I appreciate it.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 14:13

    Just as a side note. I found that just printing onto clear & overlaying that onto the reflective solved the ‘penetration’ problem…or lack thereof!

    Gets some rather good results too as the colours also become reflective.

    Anyway. What I’ve found is I usually get more vibrant colours and closer to what I envisioned on screen working as an RGB image even though the printer & software will obviously be ripping the output to CMYK.
    However – ‘vibrant’ is not always what is desired if supplied a file as a CMYK from a client.

    As already said – get a test print done before running the whole lot.

    Dave

  • Ben.Dexter

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 15:13

    thanks,

    i’l mention that method to the guy,I think i’l just print in RGB and see how it goes.

    Thanks

  • Steve Underhill

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 16:02

    You should get nice bright colours in CMYK, as I see a nice bright shiny set of boobies on page 3 every day, and the paper is printed in CMYK.

  • Ben.Dexter

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 22:21

    hmm thats a point,

    how come I can’t get anything bright then?maybe something to do with Corel?

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    16 October 2007 at 22:29

    When you say cant get bright, have you done any samples yet?

    corel is as good as any for producing print ready artwork

    Peter

  • Martin Pearson

    Member
    17 October 2007 at 10:24

    Before you go spending a lot of money on vinyl are you sure that the vinyl you want to use is suitable for the job? I don’t own a printer myself but I am sure I have read on the boards in the past that you need a special vinyl for moto cross graphics because an ordinary type of vinyl doesn’t stay on for more than 5 minutes.

    The design software is not your problem, if the graphics are not as bright/vivid as you would like then it will be down to the printer set up, type of ink or type of media used.
    As peter has said have you had any samples printed? If you have and you aren’t happy with them it might be down to how the printer is profiled and tweeking the profile might give better results but from what I have read the guy that owns the printer doesn’t really know how to use it.

  • Ben.Dexter

    Member
    17 October 2007 at 17:02

    Hi,

    yeah i have sourced the vinyl for the job,I haven’t yet printed out some samples,hopefully that will be happening this week,but I can’t even get bright colors on screen in Corel,so how will I ever get it to print bright?I can get bright colors using RGB but not CYMK,

    Ta,

  • Chris Wool

    Member
    17 October 2007 at 17:23

    unless your screen is set up correctly there will be a difference form screen to printer.
    the rip preview screen is the most accurate or should be.
    if you are picking colours from the side bar in corel you will have some very flat shaded ones.

    chris

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