where do i start with making panatrim signs?

[David McDonald]

Hi you are correct in that the frame usually stays fixed and the panels can be replaced – why not contact Universal and ask for the literature on Panatrim – this includes all the relevant info on assembly and fabrication.

Macky

[Kev Mayger]

Kate

Sounds like you should budget for a cherrypicker if the signs are that high. There’s nothing like climbing a triple extended ladder with an 8 x 4′ under 1 arm and it’s bouncing around like no tomorrow. I tried it once **** that, never again!

Kev

[Andy Gorman]

The panels should be fitted with small strips of plastic on the front at the top, that hangs on a lip inside the frame. All you should have to do is unscrew the retaining screws at the top and bottom of one end of the frame. The end should then slide off. The panels will then slide out, or possibly lift out. You have to lift the panel and pull the bottom out towards you. (That is, if the panels have been made the correct size, some people make them oversize for extra security which means you will have to slide them out.)

Make any sense?

[George Elsmore]

the frames have a fixed end and a free end, there are 2 self tappers top and bottom on one corner take these out and remove side of frame and slide panels out.

George

[Kate and Danny]

thanks for all the quick replies guys, got it a lot clearer in my head now.

as for neeeding the cherry picker, think you may be right. gonna have to head down there myself and have a look. danny went down this mornimg, he’s just told me that one of the panatrim frames is attached to two broom handles and in a bush, and another is attached to two legs made out of panatrim(?!?). didnt think the stuff was that sturdy but obviously wrong!

[George Elsmore]

sounds like a bit of a cowboy job

[Carrie Brown]

https://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.php?p=12351

Robs demos on the above link might help explain a bit better too ? Its worth taking a look at all the links at the bottom of that thread.

😀

[Kate and Danny]

hello everyone, sorry to bring this topic back up again.

been down to have a better look at this panatrim sign we are re-doing. i was expecting to find some screws somewhere on the frame in order for me to remove one side of the frame, and therefore slide the panel out, slide a new one back in etc. however, i couldnt find any. Does anyone have any other advice as to how these frames are fixed together and therefore how i can remove the panel without damaging the trim? the customer ideally just wants to replace the sign board with their new logo, and not have to replace the panatrim.

its got me stumped again this one, sorry if im asking another really dumb question!

Kate 🙂

[Martin Cole]

One side must come away, it is probably pushed in using the spring like
corner fixings. I would try tapping gently at either end to see if it comes
apart.

If there are no visible fixings then both ends will probably come away.

Use a hammer with a piece of wood to the frame if more force is needed.

Rare chance is it might be a front loading frame, used where access is
denied from sides and top.

Hope this helps

Martin

[Signs & Wonders]

Kate

I have made Panatrim frames for my signs before. The guys are correct about the screw-on end panel, BUT there is also a push in bracket for Panatrim (so as not to see any screws).

You may find that that one end piece may just pull out. It takes a bit of persuasion, especially if it’s been there a while, I usually use a rubber mallet and a few gentle taps!

Tony

🙂 Wow – Martin beat me to it 😳

[Kate and Danny]

thanks for the quick replies guys, i’m going back now armed with a piece of wood and a hammer. should be much more successful!

Kate 🙂

[Carrie Brown]

yep the guys are right one end should just kind of pop out with a little persuasion.

😀

[Tim Painter]

Some frames have a corner joint piece which has barbs on both ends so no need to put a rivet or screw through the egde of the frame.

May need a bit of a knock to get it apart.
Also they may or may not of placed screws through the frame on the uprights aswell as the cross sections. So don’t assume it wont come apart.

It may be front loading as suggested. If the panel is being replaced drilling holes through it may help you insert something to help slide it about and try to remove it in situe.

I hate all these dam paypoint and lottery projecting signs that always get placed after and stop panels being slid out. 5 minute job always turns into some major headache…… :roll:………ooo did I start to rant

[Kate and Danny]

thanks for everyones help on this one. gave it a knock with a piece of wood and a hammer as suggested and got the end off fine, with a bit of a clean up and hopefully our new signboard, it should look smart!