where can i get replacement inks for rockhopper38?

[Shane Drew]

Dave, techink do solvent inks for the Rockhopper (same inks as the JV3 uses)

Hope that helps

http://www.techink.com/products/inks.asp

[alan flynn]

hello dave
why are you changing the inks, sometimes savings on ink can be not so good if you loose time having to find new profiles, also repeat jobs will you be able to match the colours from your old jobs,
if you do change make sure you fully flush the machine, first with the mutoh flush, then with the flush of the new ink manufacturer, one other thing to think about the mutoh inks have little smell compared to some on the market,
hope this has been of help,
sometimes the grass is not always greener.
regards
alan flynn

[Mark Mickelborough]

quote alan flynn:

hello dave
why are you changing the inks, sometimes savings on ink can be not so good if you loose time having to find new profiles, also repeat jobs will you be able to match the colours from your old jobs,
if you do change make sure you fully flush the machine, first with the mutoh flush, then with the flush of the new ink manufacturer, one other thing to think about the mutoh inks have little smell compared to some on the market,
hope this has been of help,
sometimes the grass is not always greener.
regards
alan flynn

wholey agree, in the past i have been given ink from a third party manufacturer, and more often than not, you’ll lose so much time (and money) trying to achieve the same gamut of your previous ink sets, that its much easier to stay with your existing supplier

[Kevin Flowers]

Hi
just change to Mutoh Ultra Inks great improvement on previous inks & cheaper than previous Mutoh inks. Unless you are out putting alot of print, cost savings won’t be a factor.

Kev

[David Walker]

thanks for all your replies,

another reason i was thinking of going for third party inks was the

durability, the existing eco solvent plus on my rockhopper38 are terrible

one score with a finger nail and the prints off…

anyone else have this problem?

dave…

[Kevin Flowers]

Dave
had the same problem mainly on banners, not so much with vinyl. Recently swopped to the Ultra ink sets from Mutoh and colour, durability etc all greatly improved. What vinyls are you using software etc

Kev

[David Walker]

using onyx ripcentre and flexisign and using mainly hexis media

also i find i cant have heaters up too high else i get dark banding down the print…

also tried grafytip media didn’t find this as good as hexis..

[Kevin Flowers]

Dave,
i’m using Oracal, although at present can only get it at 760mm width but working on getting it at 940mm width at moment. Got profiles for it so i can run the printer via Flexi don’t get on with the Onyx rip that came with the printer. Providing i aint doing a fade or very light colour i can have heaters at nearly max, prints are dry to touch as it comes out and rub test is very good. If you want a sample i’ll send you something

Kev

[Pauly]

If your considering the ITL inks, im told they are good inks and i have seen some prints from the eco-solMAX range, and the gamut and durability are excellent. But that said, if buying in bulk, ive heard some bad stories about using the refillable cartridges as they can put air bubbles in the lines and cause headaches. But that said, im told if you purchase the ITL in a disposable cartridge rather than a refillable, you wont have this problem, the only problem with that is that it cuts the saving of using the inks down dramatically.

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[Ivan]

Hi to you all,

just wondering if anyone know if rockhopper with new eco solvent ULTRA
inks could replace my true solvent machine. I can’t find anywhere exactly how good are those new inks in comparison
with true solvent prints.

@ kevin
Could you please tell me on which oracal products are you currently
printing (e.g, orajet 3640, 3164 or even monomeric cutter vinyl)

thanks in advance
Ivan

[Kevin Flowers]

Hi
i use 3651G at present you can get profiles @ http://www.oracal.com/learning_support/ … jsp#fojr-f
ultra inks are greatly approved don’t know if they could be swopped with your full solvent inks

Kev

[Ivan]

wow, did not expect an answer so quickly.

what i meant to say is that i got an offer to swap my true solvent machine (infiniti 6150, resolution 300dpi max) for rock with eco ultra inks (same width, 1.6m).

It would be great to be able to have the machine with prints which have the
ability to withstand all the weather issues like true solvents + it is capable
to print in resolution up to 1440dpi.

So, that’s my question. Can i go just for a swap to rockhopper, or … rockhopper + conversion to true solvent.

One more for the road:)
What about printing on orajet 3640, 3164, avery 3000 series etc. with ultra inks? Any experience with that types of vinyl.

[Kevin Flowers]

Ivan
you will never want to print at 1440dpi too slow & no need to 720 is excellant quality.
Ultra inks are good but lamination will be required on some jobs
Don’t know about the other oracal vinyls

Kev

[Ivan]

OK
thanks for the reply Kev

Could you give me some real life info on speed for rockhopper.

[davidimo]

Maybe you should consider Fillink Inks, I think they have a representative in the UK…www.fillink.eu.com

[lubo1972]

Ivan, you can use Bordeaux eco inks for Rockhopper without any change on your machine. Also FillInk is a good choice. We are printing on ORAFOL 640 with great results.

[eddie meadows]

I’ve only heard good things from the ITL ink. Excellent vibrant colours and is pretty aggressive adhesion qualities. If I were you though I’d be trying to get them to come out and do the whole conversion (Flush with old flush, flush with new flush, install new inks and colour profile your media). If they want your business I’m sure they’ll support you. 😉

[Dennis Van Der Lingen]

i would not recomend changing the rockhopper to true solvent,
it has epson printing heads that need to be changed every 3 to 4 months due to the fact there not really suited for full solvent.

eco works fine, laminate when it is needed and your of.