what would you charge for this?

[Jon Marshall]

We usually charge double the normal vinyl rates for reflective.

If you want something easier to work with then we find the 5R from All-print is more forgiving than some of the other reflectives which delaminate if you try to reposition them.

[Peter Dee]

Clive, you can’t use yellow reflective vinyl on the rear, it has to be fluorescent. You can cover in yellow and then apply the red stripes on top. That way it can all be easily removed.

[Hugh Potter]

quote Peter Dee:

Clive, you can’t use yellow reflective vinyl on the rear, it has to be fluorescent. You can cover in yellow and then apply the red stripes on top. That way it can all be easily removed.

is that adhered to totally though?

i’ve seen a few fire trucks recently which had yellow reflective rather than flourescent chevrons on the rear, only noticed them because i’d read similar to your statement above.

[George Elsmore]

reflective fluorescent you can

done plenty of them 😀

[Peter Dee]

George, you may have done plenty of vehicles which qualify for the use of yellow reflective but the vehicle in question (customs – dog section) in my opinion would not qualify. That’s where the laws on Road Traffic can be mis-interpreted IMHO. I may be wrong but there are conditions of use.

[George Elsmore]

True i have done police cars highways vehicles etc forgive me i thought you were just generalizing

[Peter Normington]

as far as I am aware, and I would love to be contradicted, there are no laws regarding reflective, just directives and guidelines.
Different authorities specify different guidelines.
To prove my point, please can anyone point to a case where someone has been prosecuted for applying or using the wrong colour reflective?

if not, just fit what the customer wants, its up to them to specify requirements, if the vehicle is used for a particular purpose.
Peter

[Peter Dee]

From the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989:

(2) No vehicle shall be fitted with a lamp which is capable of showing any light to the rear, other than a red light, except-

(a) amber light from a direction indicator or side marker lamp;

(b) white light from a reversing lamp;

(c) white light from a work lamp;

(d) light to illuminate the interior of a vehicle;

(e) light from an illuminated rear registration plate;

(f) light for the purposes of illuminating a taxi meter;

(g) in the case of a bus, light for the purposes of illuminating a route indicator;

(h) blue light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to a police control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;

(i) white light from a red and white chequered domed lamp, or a red and white segmented mast-mounted warning beacon, fitted to a fire service control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;

(j) green light and white light from a chequered domed lamp fitted to an ambulance control vehicle and intended for use at the scene of an emergency;

(k) blue light from a warning beacon or rear special warning lamp fitted to an emergency vehicle, or from any device fitted to a vehicle used for police purposes;

(l) amber light from a warning beacon fitted to-

(i) a road clearance vehicle;
(ii) a vehicle constructed or adapted for the purpose of collecting refuse;
(iii) a breakdown vehicle;
(iv) a vehicle having a maximum speed not exceeding 25 mph or any trailer drawn by such a vehicle;
(v) a vehicle having an overall width (including any load) exceeding 2.9 m;
(vi) a vehicle used for the purposes of testing, maintaining, improving, cleansing or watering roads or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(vii) a vehicle used for the purpose of inspecting, cleansing, maintaining, adjusting, renewing or installing any apparatus which is in, on, under or over a road, or for any purpose incidental to any such use;
(viii) a vehicle used for or in connection with any purpose for which it is authorised to be used on roads by an order under section 44 of the Act;
(ix) a vehicle used for escort purposes when travelling at a speed not exceeding 25 mph;
(x) a vehicle used by the Commissioners of Customs and Excise for the purpose of testing fuels;
(xi) a vehicle used for the purpose of surveying;
(xii) a vehicle used for the removal or immobilisation of vehicles in exercise of a statutory power or duty;

(m) green light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle used by a medical practitioner registered by the General Medical Council (whether with full, provisional or limited registration);

(n) yellow light from a warning beacon fitted to a vehicle for use at airports;

(o) light of any colour from a traffic sign which is attached to a vehicle;

(p) reflected light from amber pedal retro reflectors;

(q) reflected light of any colour from retro reflective material or a retro reflector designed primarily to reflect light to one or both sides of the vehicle and attached to or incorporated in any wheel or tyre of-

(i) a pedal cycle and any sidecar attached to it;
(ii) a solo motor bicycle or motor bicycle combination; or
(iii) an invalid carriage;

(r) reflected light from amber retro reflective material on a road clearance vehicle;

(s) reflected light from yellow retro reflective registration plates;

(t) reflected light from yellow retro reflective material incorporated in a rear marking of a type specified in Part I Section B of Schedule 19 and fitted to-

(i) a motor vehicle having a maximum gross weight exceeding 7500 kg;
(ii) a motor vehicle first used before 1st August 1982 having an unladen weight exceeding 3000 kg;
(iii) a trailer having a maximum gross weight exceeding 3500 kg;
(iv) a trailer manufactured before 1st August 1982 having an unladen weight exceeding 1000 kg;
(v) a trailer which forms part of a combination of vehicles one of which is of a type mentioned in a previous item of this sub-paragraph;
(vi) a load carried by any vehicle; or

(u) reflected light from orange retro reflective material incorporated in a sign fitted to the rear of a vehicle carrying a dangerous substance within the meaning of the Dangerous Substances (Conveyance by Road in Road Tankers and Tank Containers) Regulations 1981[16] or the Road Traffic (Carriage of Dangerous Substances in Packages etc) Regulations 1986[17]

[Clive Martinez]

Thank you all for your comments.
Can anyone tell give me a figure of what they would charge for this job?

thanks

Clive

[Graeme Harrold]

Think thats pretty well covered then.

[Hugh Potter]

quote Clive Martinez:

Thank you all for your comments.
Can anyone tell give me a figure of what they would charge for this job?

thanks

Clive

it’s hard to say a rice as we don’t know what vinyl you intend to use,

if it’s some kind of diamond grade film (no good on normal cutters) then it’ll be about 5x the price of engineering grade,

an engineering grade costs what, tenner a meter / 610mm for a good one?

add you mark-up, add your labour.

as a rough guess,

5m yellow, 1m red reflective, i’d retail about £25-30pm
plus your regular vinyl, couple of mtr max,
plus your labour rate at X amount to fit, maybe 2hrs to install that job.

btw. my sheet price includes the time i spend cutting, weeding and masking it. labour is charged from the moment i leave the workshop to when i finish the job.