what vinyl can be stretched in recesses?

[John Childs]

Well, we’ve all been there………

It depends on the depth and shape of the recess and, although some will say that some calendered vinyls will do the job, I would really recommend using a cast or a wrap material.

Even then you should:-

1. Make sure that the recess is scrupulously clean before appication.
2. When stretched in and all air removed – bake it.
3. Bake it again.
4. Have a cup of tea.
5. Give it another baking for good measure.

[Robert Lambie]

johns right mate.. calander is not the one to use. specialy if your new to this type of application.

you will (depending on how sever the recess is) be able to use a good quality calendar. but for the likes of a sprinter panel recesses ide forgrt it.
i wouldnt even be confident using a cast. i know its the next best thing but i have seen many casts lift. at the end of the day, i think most vinyl failures are down to the applicator. thats reputable casts and the like i mean failing.

the only vinyl that i have streched very deep into a recess and felt confident to walk away has been mactac “macfleet vehicle” the job i did, i see weekly and its still Perfect! not a single bit is pulling or showing signs of pulling. the down side of this vinyl is it is very teprmental when being applied. (not for a beginner)
(see demo on the tan van in demo section)

[Aaron & Chris]

Thanks for that info 😀

I think we may end up paying a visit back to the client to replace that logo with cast.

Could i just ask though… when you say bake it how hot and how long are we talking, is it just till you feel it get warm or really stick some heat on it?

also how deep and severe do you call a recess? 😕

and Rob i just wondered do u show an example of recess fitting in any of your demos? might be able to pick up a few hints and tips.

Cheers for any and all help really appreciate it!! 😉

[Robert Lambie]

the wrapping one on the tanvan shows how to step the vinyl down into the recess mate. but this is using vehicle wrap.

when we talk baking the vinyl, you are only baking the recessed areas. not the flat. when we say bake it. i dont mean go right upto the paintwork and let rip with heat gun, you can bubble the paint if the paint work isnt factory done or.. you can scorch the paintwork if its white.
what to do is heat the area about 6 inches away, always keeping the heat gun moving back and forward. i always say, heat it till its as hot as a fresh cuppa tea.. let the vinyl/metal panel naturaly cool down cold, then repeat this, 3 times is best..

the recesses that cause bother are the ones that are severe. like the ones you get in the high up panels on the side of an old shaped transit, a spinter van etc..

ill reply to this agin in 10 mins.. thers an old post that may help you if i find it 😉

[Robert Lambie]

Hello again.. found it!… this is a demo of how to use a calander vinyl crossing a deep recess without stretching.
It was posted my Nigel Fraser of creative signage. here he shows how to do it very well.
instead of stipping the vinyl and doing it again, you could simply slit what you have and patch as shown.

For the full discussion thread on it click the link below

http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … t=recesses

[Aaron & Chris]

cheers thats great!