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what paints do you use for wall painting?
Hi!
I have been asked to paint a sign on the exterior of a shop wall. It will have a landscape scene and an animals head, either a sheep or a cow. The shop name will be above it. The size would appear to be about 20′ by 15′ Im not sure weather I should use exterior gloss, masonry paint or one shot! Ive only ever done small wall murals and just used one shot before. The other thing is price. I dont want to scare him off! But I do want to make a profit!!! Has anyone any idea of a rough price for a wall job like this???Thanks Aj 😎
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What about acrylic paints? you may need to glaze over it, but definetly cheaper, I would think.
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Do yo know how they would weather? Would they fade quicker than exterior gloss, enamels etc.? 😀
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I have always stayed clear of gloss paints for a job like this as they tend to sit on the surface like a skin and be easily affected by weather and moisture. Acrylic will bond much better but have the disadvantage of fading, however a good quality ‘glaze’ which is maintained over the years has worked for me. All exterior finishes will break down eventually, so Stress the ‘maintenance’ factor to the customer. I would think that unless you are doing a very graphic, flat lanscape that acrylics would be more versatile for this project.
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What glaze would you recommend? 😎 How do you go about giving a price for a job like this? Do you know roughly how much I should be charging the customer for a job this size? He is going to deal with the scaffolding separately. Im really not sure what to charge him!! 😮
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Any good quality exterior glaze will do, you can get it at any decent paint shop. As to price, I would calculate how many days it will take to complete, allowwing an extra day for comfort, then, add on costs and materials.
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Thankyou 😎
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I always use a mix of 1-Shot Lettering and Bulletin enamels.
To extend drying/blending time you can use Smith’s Creme.
(not really a cream, more of a liquid)
and they do sell a flattening paste to add to your paint to reduce gloss.
1-Shot also has a mette clear, which I’ve never tried.
I’d be leary of acrylics fading or not standing up to the elements.
Here are two we did last year, it still looks great, 100% 1-Shot.
It typically takes 4 years to fade.
By then you can start calling it a "Ghost Sign" to sound trendy.
Love….jill
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Hey Jill thats great stuff
Its got WOW factor
What a pleasure to see
Marking out on walls is a real pain
I guess they were pounced!I’ve done walls they seem to take an eternity compared to nicely glossed surfaces
Thanks for sharing
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nice work jill 😀
i used a flattening paste years ago for work on football pitch adv. walls….cant remember what we call it here…but it was good stuff 😉
nik
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Generally, I project stuff, and only pounce as needed.
It’s not fun to pound graphite thru teesny holes in paper whilst on a ladder!
I can’t remember the name brand of the flattening paste,
perhaps you can Google it?
I may land a HUGE wall job this summer that will take up most of my weekends!
A medieval theme no less, complete with a rose window and family crests!
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Love the pics Jill 😎 Im gonna get on and work out a price! Just gotta find some paper 15′ wide so I can do a drawing!! :rofl:
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Jill, those murals are amazing, wish customers here would pay for that quality.
Apologies AJ I doff my hat to Jill’s superior knowledge, I have never used 1-shot. Wish someone supplied it here, sounds like great stuff.
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I think I got $600 for painting the word "Center" and re-painting the entire thing. (3 people 10 hours, $ split 3 ways) We did use a pounce pattern for Center.
(messy divorce, had to change Benders to Menders due to a dissolved partnership)
This was not my design, and the owner masked & painted the checkers.
To do it from scratch I would have charged in the neighborhood of $1500.
The bottom one I did WAY too cheap, but I was trying to get my name and services out to the community…$250 and it took about 8 hours with 2 people.
This job has gotten me lots of referral work. Everybody asks if I did it.
This was projected the night before…you shoulda seen the bugs on the screen!
I have also done ones using a small drawing blown up with a grid system (easier than you think)
The job I’m bidding right now consists of 2 walls 15’x30′, a 15’x15′ front and back, and possibly even a wall. I bid that out at just under $7,000.
They gave me a $250 design fee which I will deduct from the final payment.Do not be afraid to ask for what you are worth. Wall painting is a very specialized skill. It’s kinda fun too.
Love….jill
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