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what is the difference in buying other cutters and graphtec
I have a roland print and cut and am looking for my next machine, a cutter only. as I only have a 30" print and cut at present I would like to buy a wide cutter to accomodate large vinyl rolls.
I have been to the sign and digital last week but am still bogged down as to what I need to be looking for in a cutter. I am fully aware that the wider the cutter the more money you pay for it. however, what I cant understand for example is a graphtec ce5000-60 costs £1200 and thats only 24". If you buy a GRAPHTEC SIGNJET PR0 JX2150 60"with 8 HEADS print and cut though its second hand would only cost £1800. I cant see the justification in that. why would you pay £1200 0r even £800 for a second hand ce5000-60 when you can get a 60" print and cut graphtec for a little bit more but also operates as a printer. does it have anything to do with cut force, speed maybe?? I have seen machines called creation pcut claiming to be twice as fast as the roland on ebay over 40" for only under 400.
I dont understand why the drastic changes in all the prices. Am i missing something?? also can all the machines operate via contour cutting using illustrator??
thanx
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quote Phillip Patterson:If you buy a GRAPHTEC SIGNJET PR0 JX2150 60″with 8 HEADS print and cut though its second hand would only cost £1800.😮 😮 Where did you see that Philip?
I’ve had a PCut and a Graphtec…the Graphtec is more than worth the extra charge. You will save time, vinyl and hair working with a Graphtec!
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Philip
the signjet is very old the 24i" Graphtec is a newer model cutter, going wider than 24" gets expensiveKev
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Hi Harry,
Saw it on Ebay. What i can’t understand is why buy a 5k or so machine when though older is wider as fast, has much cutting force for less then 2k. also do all these machines allow the use of illustrator contour cutting??
apart from looking for:
speed
cut force
width
tracking accuracy
and optical eye registrationis there anything else i should be looking for in a cutter??
Also what did you think of the Pcut in relation to your graphtec??
thanx
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quote Phillip Patterson:Also what did you think of the Pcut in relation to your graphtec??
thanx
the PCut is ok but is not in the same league as the Graphtec.
Operating the PCut was very random as you didn’t know what to expect from day to day. The Graphtec switches on and does what it is told over and over again. -
if you are on a budget and optical contour cutting is not important then you might want to consider a used mutoh / gerber sc1200. These 4 foot 1220mm machines are totally bomb proof and still hold their own against the newer machines in terms of speed and accuracy. Still probably one of the best cutters out there ( excluding the suma t series of course !) I honestly wish I’d never sold ours !
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dave, how old are these machines??
can i get um second user?? or is there a place where i can buy refurb/second user equipment??
thanx again 🙂
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Phillip I’d say circa 10-15 years old now. As to where you get them from. . you just have to be lucky they come up on our favourite auction site quite often, or you could try Alan at Flynn signs he deals with new and used mutoh equipment
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Will have a good look around am thinking of getting a summa s class t series s120. just wanted to know how it would fit in with my roland sp300v and if I can use versaworks on it and print on my roland and then cut on the summa or would the regmarks be alien to the summa???
also does anyone have one of these
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think VW will only drive roland cutters, summa is a different language.
whats wrong with the cutting of prints with the versacamm. and have a good quality cutter for every day cutting. -
true. I just thought it would be nice to operate 2 cutters once they are setup with the same software.
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I have a RS-640 and Graphtec FC-8000-130 plotter.
Plotter can’t cut 1600 wide media, which isn’t to big of an issue for what I am doing.
Graphtec, you can download the plug in for illustrator, it adds the reg marks to the document, which in turn the plotter reads when cutting the paths from illustrator.
I cut vinyl on the machine without a hitch, and invested in a heavy duty blade, when I was cutting through some 440 micron PVC, not a problem.
I was running out batches of prints the other week, then loading them into the plotter, so had both machines running at the same time.
I haven’t used a Pcut, so don’t have a clue.
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I run two Gerber GS15 plotters (15" sprocketed), one Gerber Envision 375 (15" sprocketed), one Gerber Embosstrack 24", one Gerber Fasttrack 650, one Gerber P2C75S (basically a Summa s75t with tangential knife) and one Summa S160. All from one single program, Omega 4.0. And no, they’re not all plugged in the same pc.
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