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What do you do with the old signs you remove?
What do you do with the old signs you remove?
We have always put them in the bin, but the reason for my question is…. The story so far!
We fitted a sign to a local shop.
We had fitted the previous sign, belonging to the last tenant of the premises. That business went bust and the shop was empty for about 3 months, before the new tenant moved in.We removed the old sign then fitted the new sign. Old sign went into the van and then in the skip.
2 days after fitting the new sign, the lady who used to run the business that went bust called in our shop asking for her old sign.
We told her it went in the skip, but she insisted we owed her a new sign… We argued our case and stuck to our guns that if she wanted the sign she should have taken it down herself etc.
Does anyone know where we stand on this?
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12 Replies
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I’d imagine, and I might well be wrong, that she paid you for it so ownership would change hands to her at that time.
Although there is the argument that she abandoned it and at that point it "might" be classed as commercial waste :lol1:
Andy
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I would "trump" her "you owe me a sign" with "she owes you for removal and disposal of her old sign" on the grounds that you could not install the new sign until her old sign had been removed. :lol1: :lol1:
Seriously, though she’s on a hiding to nothing and needs a reality check.
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I would imagine that on the lease it stated the premises had to be cleared, fixtures fitting and other items that they wanted to keep, otherwise they would be charged for clearing and cleaning and disposal of said items including item attached to the fabric of the premises. I would imagine that would include the signage, you should have sent her a bill !
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Thanks guys
she didn`t put up much of a fight, I thinks she was chancing her arm to see if she could get something out of it.
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As Graham has already said it would have been in the terms of the lease that anything left at the end of the lease they would be charged for disposal of.
If they managed to get out of the lease early for some reason they would have been given a set period of time to remove anything they wanted from the premises before it was disposed of and them charged.
You have to give her top marks for effort though :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: -
was it a well made sign? i mean some of these signs can cost thousands!
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quote Dave Rowland:was it a well made sign?
As opposed to what? A badly made sign? (Bearing in mind Denise supplied this originally 😕 ) :you:
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slightly off topic but, in line with the title!!
since I do not have a waste carrying license I usually tell the customer that it’s their waste and they need to deal with it, i’ll only remove it, if it’s foam board I usually just smash n bin it, easy. However, if it’s an old aluminium sign the i’ll take it away ‘for refurbishment’, the last time I took away a heavy ali tray for refurbishment (1m x 6m), I decided to have my mate look after it for me down the scrap yard, I never saw it again but he gave me £90 for taking care of it 😉
also, I have occasionally recycled large composite or ali trays that are in good enough condition to resell as pre-owned, customer gets a good deal and I make money from what woulda been junk!
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quote Phill Fenton:quote Dave Rowland:was it a well made sign?
As opposed to what? A badly made sign? (Bearing in mind Denise supplied this originally 😕 ) :you:
It cost about £200 in total.
We also did window graphics, I am just waiting for her to ask about those LOL
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quote Martin:As Graham has already said it would have been in the terms of the lease that anything left at the end of the lease they would be charged for disposal of.
If they managed to get out of the lease early for some reason they would have been given a set period of time to remove anything they wanted from the premises before it was disposed of and them charged.
You have to give her top marks for effort though :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:I did point this out to her, as we let our old shop, and when a tenant leaves with belongings still there, by law we have to try to contact the person, a sign in the window or local paper often is the way to go.
Putting a time limit of when they can contact you is normally 1 month, the building was empty for 3 months…
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quote Hugh Potter:slightly off topic but, in line with the title!!
since I do not have a waste carrying license I usually tell the customer that it’s their waste and they need to deal with it, i’ll only remove it, if it’s foam board I usually just smash n bin it, easy. However, if it’s an old aluminium sign the i’ll take it away ‘for refurbishment’, the last time I took away a heavy ali tray for refurbishment (1m x 6m), I decided to have my mate look after it for me down the scrap yard, I never saw it again but he gave me £90 for taking care of it 😉
also, I have occasionally recycled large composite or ali trays that are in good enough condition to resell as pre-owned, customer gets a good deal and I make money from what would been junk!
That is quite a good point, we get charged for our waste removal by the council, so why do we not charge the customer ( well we don`t)
Anything metal, we leave by h#the bin, and the next day the metal fairies have made it vanish LOL
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lol, lots of metal faries round here too but we call the Pixeys, or something like that! I generally recommend people use composite where possible if it’s in an area where the ali and cables often go missing!
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