What do you charge for travel time?

[David Hammond]

We’ve worked out our running costs, based on an 8 hour day, 5 days a week, but assumed we’re only able to bill 5 hours per day.

We have a full & 1/2 day rate based on that, we charge that + fuel (40p mile?) (+ Accommodation & Food if required) if outside our normal stomping ground.

Trouble with charging per mile only is when you end up sat in traffic. :bangshead:

[Hugh Potter]

if it’s under 10miles it’s included. outside 10 miles we charge our hourly rate, outside 20 it’s the same + fuel and any expenses.

Being rural 10miles is rarely more than 15mins and we’re making reasonable money at least in the job too.

Edit: Myself will be charged at full hourly rate and "the lad" a min of £20ph, subbies may be more depending what they bring to the table. so me and a "lad" would prob be £60ph if going to fit a sign.

[Jamie Hunt]

Yes but what do you charge hourly rate and what is your travel mileage charge

[David Hammond]

It’s irrelevant what anyone else charges, each business is different and have their own costs.

I know a company who quoted a customer £150.00 to install their sign. A two man team 8 hours – That’s £9.38 an hour per man… A trade fitter we know charges £400 per day for a 2 man team, but they have multiple vans on the road, their own cherry pickers, printers etc. The fitters we used in London once charged per £600 a day.

As I always say, work out your running costs and charge what you’re happy to charge & make from each job. :thumbsup:

[Jamie Hunt]

quote David Hammond:

It’s irrelevant what anyone else charges, each business is different and have their own costs.

I know a company who quoted a customer £150.00 to install their sign. A two man team 8 hours – That’s £9.38 an hour per man… A trade fitter we know charges £400 per day for a 2 man team, but they have multiple vans on the road, their own cherry pickers, printers etc. The fitters we used in London once charged per £600 a day.

As I always say, work out your running costs and charge what you’re happy to charge & make from each job. :thumbsup:

Ok thanks for the advice Dave

[Unknown Member]

We are at £650 a day and £450 half day.

[Jamie Hunt]

£650 is this for for travel time or do you mean labour time James , to different things , while your driving your not necessarily working so do you charge full rate for this as well, think im to cheap![emoji23]

[Alex Crosbie]

If you’re driving then you can’t be making signs, doing artwork or any of the other things that make you money, if you’re not charging the same rate for travelling time as you are for working then by that way of thinking you’ll earn less by going out fitting than you would for making signs.

Distance doesn’t work out, as you can drive an hour to one place and it be 50 miles or you could drive an hour to go 5 miles.

Or put simply would you like to earn less money for going out fitting rather than staying in the cosy warm unit making signs.

Don’t forget with fitting work you have to provide a whole host of equipment, drills, PPE, ladders, steps, then there’s the vehicle, road tax, insurance, public liability and tradesmans insurance. Then there’s the health and safety aspect with risk assessments etc. And ongoing training and replacement of equipment as and when it needs it.

Hope that helps

[David Hammond]

Alex put’s it far better than I could. :thumbsup:

We charge different rates, depending on the skill level, whether we can multi task when doing the job, our lowest rate is our ‘Monkey Rate’ which covers any task that a monkey could do 😆 😆 But it all revolves around our hourly costs.

Here’s an info graphic that may help (albeit American) http://blog.creativelive.com/how-to-cal … fographic/

[David Rogers]

Travel time v fitting time.

You’re ‘on a job’ and not making money elsewhere. If you’ve a crew of two or three… that’s 2 or 3 people sitting doing diddly-squat in a van…still needs paid for which is why I do ‘day rate’ and charge fuel on top.

I charge slightly differently for me against a ‘vinyl monkey/hole digger’ if out on my own.

Charge rates vary…I charge less when fitting my own stuff as I can cover some of the value in the goods.