vinyl to car door mouldings

[Phill Fenton]

I usually trim vinyl to fit around the moulding leaving the trim in its natural black finish.

[Martin Parker]

yeah phil thats what i normally do but i was asked if a graphic could go over it instead of being trimmed

thanks for the reply

[John Childs]

quote Martin Parker:

yeah phil thats what i normally do but i was asked if a graphic could go over it instead of being trimmed

Nope. Stuff ’em.

Do it Phill’s way. 😀

[Peter Normington]

there are vinyls that will stick to mouldings, so if the customer is prepared to pay why say stuff them?

Peter

[Martin Parker]

np john just wanted to ask as i always trimmed

out of curiosity ehat is the graffifix for

thanks to you also john for your reply

[Martin Parker]

what makes of vinyls stick to mouldings john out of curiosity

thanks

martin

[Gordon Forbes]

Any that are recommended for Low Energy Plastic nearly all the suppliers do one of some sort

[Martin Parker]

cheers gordon

[John Childs]

quote Peter Normington:

there are vinyls that will stick to mouldings, so if the customer is prepared to pay why say stuff them?

Fair enough, perhaps I was being a bit harsh, and of course I would do it if the customer was prepared to pay, but they so rarely are, are they? "HOW MUCH?" goes up the wail, "I can get it cheaper down the road".

The number of times we have been asked to put lettering across those mouldings Lord Nelson could count on the fingers of his bad hand. So we would have to order the stuff in especially, and then be left with offcuts at the end of the job that would just sit cluttering up the workshop for the next few years, until we threw them out. We’ve got barrowloads of stuff like that and I don’t want any more.

I wish you the best of luck with this job Martin, but unless you can convince the customer to part with loads of cash, or there is a nice volume, I would stick to the "it can’t be done" line.

[Hugh Potter]

i have occasionally been asked to go over mouldings with print (was on orafol print most recently), i always clean the thoroughly with thinners or isoprop first and once applied and heated into the recesses i’ll slit it and apply right down to avoid any water getting underneath,

i do always say to the customer that it’s not guaranteed to stay on due to release agents -on new vehicles- and sometimes silicone restorers like back to black leeching out over time, and that if it begins to lift to just remove it, so long as they know that up front i have no troubles in fitting it as such.

Hugh

[Robert Lambie]

im sorry but im more in line with the stuff them approach. 😀

"unless the mouldings are colour coded" with the vehicle they will have the semi-matt and sometimes textured finish, which vinyls do not take to well at all. couple that with the stetching/wrapping of the mould itself and your certainly going to get the vinyl creeping back off soon after application.

i will always advise the customer of this issue. if they insist on trying, ill do it, but wont be happy about it. but will bake it over the mould, slit it where the vehicle meets the mould and thats that. this way your keeping the customer happy but allowing for a the pull back of the vinyl. as it will peel on the mould only. at this point its the customers problem as the rest of the vinyl will stay put.

i have never had a customer willing to pay over the odds just to cover their moulding. so that rules out paying for a wrap vinyl just to cross the moulding. (not that i expect even a wrap vinyl to stay on a semi-matt either). i just mean it has a better chance…
i have not used the vinyl gordon mentions, so i cannot comment, but again, like the wrap vinyl i have never come across a customer willing to pay much more just to cross the moulding, and even if they where, ide make sure they paid plenty for the luxury because im not buying in stock that i have never seen the need to in 18 years, to sit on our shelfs on the "hope" that someone else is going to walk in and be "so particular and willing to pay".

[Martin Parker]

thanks guys for your help have spoke to the customer this morning and it was a case if it could be done then fine, but if its a hassle then just trim.

explained the problems with applying vinyl over mouldings and they were happy i took the time to seek advice and go back to them with what information i was given.

as i said i normally trim unless as rob said it is a colour coded moulding where the vinyl is fine when applied.

thanks

martin

[Martin Gray]

Hi

A little off topic but we do a lot of panting of fleet vehicle bumpers and was thinking it mite be cheaper to applying vinyl.

Would you recommend?

Al post a picture in off topic forum.

Martin