Vinyl sign on corrugated plastic

[Lynn Normington]

Eze covering the whole sign won’t lengthen it’s life, it may look better. I suppose it depends what you are charging and if it is worth the extra work. Cherwell do VK plugs just drill the hole and hammer them in. Hope this helps

Lynn

[Matty Goodwin]

As Lynn says, depends on customer budget! To be honest if they want the sign on correx then the budget is low. Don’t waste time and money trying to make there sign look better than paid for!

Have you charged for design time or just material/fit?

Matt

[Ezekiel Ikhinmiwn]

Thanks Lynn that helps a lot.

Matt – I’m only quoting them for material and the time it takes to weed and plot or plot and weed I should a said. I was gonna ask a (bulider mate of mine to fit .. and add a few bob on for that ) but thought I’d ask on the board first to see if I could get any help with fixings and fit it myself I didn’t wanna clean sign with dud fitting/fixings. … I guess I’ll consider driving down there and using the plugs Lynn mentioned and add it all into the bill.

The corry was kinda my idea 😮 as they have another sign on the wall just above the space for theirs and it looked like a bit of corry with a full colour vinyl wrap on it. They asked for a mix between that sign and a single colour vinyl sign on the other side of the building… so I chose the cheaper option for them… (and me..) based on what they showed me. 😳

Anyone care to let me know the ideal material for a brick wall besides ye old corrugated plastic? I’ll see if they are willing to extend their budget a little for a different type of finish, they do want blue text on a white background so I’ll will have to consider that..

Thanks for your time guys

Eze

[Hugh Potter]

hi dude,

i only ever use correx type panels for the most temporary or "likely to get trashed very quickly" type jobs,

a better option would be foam board (looks like thin PVCu sheet) in 4/5/6/10mm, range of colours available although I only ever normally buy white and flood it, for the cost of a bit of vinyl on a small sign it’s no big deal.

best material is probably the composite panels (dibond, alupanel, skybond etc etc), much longer lasting, not affected by temperatures like plastics, gloss finish, range of colours, light and about 3-4mm thick. 95% of my flat panel (and pans) are made of this these days, it might look expensive to a beginner but, it’s money well spend, the job will look just as good in 2yrs as when you put it up if you use good vinyls,

don’t offer your customer the cheapest option first, we all know they want ‘cheap as’ but when shown the differences in quality and maybe three prices… composite, foam & correx, they will invariably go for the more expensive options. people will go for quality more often than cheap if they’re shown what they’re paying for, let’s face it, if all customers were driven by price alone, they’d all be driving around in old lada’s and austin allegro’s, not the nice cars they like to afford themselves 😉

[Ezekiel Ikhinmiwn]

Thanks Hugh for that great bit of advice "mini wall signs material 101" 😀 .
You right I think I’ll give a mix of quote and qualities from now on instead of attempting to offer the cheapest deals. 😳

If they were to go for the foam or composite option would the fixings be much the same for a brick wall or what would others recommend?…. would the VK plugs work well for these types of signs as well as they woul for the corrugated plastic.

Thanks for all your help – I guess its not just my post count that is giving away my level of expertise on this side of things 😳 😕 🙄

Eze

[Shane Drew]

quote Hugh Potter:

hi dude,

i only ever use correx type panels for the most temporary or “likely to get trashed very quickly” type jobs,

a better option would be foam board (looks like thin PVCu sheet) in 4/5/6/10mm, range of colours available although I only ever normally buy white and flood it, for the cost of a bit of vinyl on a small sign it’s no big deal.

best material is probably the composite panels (dibond, alupanel, skybond etc etc), much longer lasting, not affected by temperatures like plastics, gloss finish, range of colours, light and about 3-4mm thick. 95% of my flat panel (and pans) are made of this these days, it might look expensive to a beginner but, it’s money well spend, the job will look just as good in 2yrs as when you put it up if you use good vinyls,

don’t offer your customer the cheapest option first, we all know they want ‘cheap as’ but when shown the differences in quality and maybe three prices… composite, foam & correx, they will invariably go for the more expensive options. people will go for quality more often than cheap if they’re shown what they’re paying for, let’s face it, if all customers were driven by price alone, they’d all be driving around in old lada’s and austin allegro’s, not the nice cars they like to afford themselves 😉

Good advice there Hugh. Well said… 🙂

The great thing about this forum Eze is that their is lots of good advice. As you get experienced you’ll want to help too. Its the way it works.

All the best anyway.

[Hugh Potter]

quote Ezekiel Ikhinmiwn:

Thanks Hugh for that great bit of advice “mini wall signs material 101” 😀 .
You right I think I’ll give a mix of quote and qualities from now on instead of attempting to offer the cheapest deals. 😳

If they were to go for the foam or composite option would the fixings be much the same for a brick wall or what would others recommend?…. would the VK plugs work well for these types of signs as well as they woul for the corrugated plastic.

Thanks for all your help – I guess its not just my post count that is giving away my level of expertise on this side of things 😳 😕 🙄

Eze

for fixings i always use plastic plugs and screws, countersink the holes on foam or composite and cover the holes with matching vinyl circles, easy, I only ever use specialist fixings where large, heavy or potentially dangerous things are fitted (shop signs, flag poles, projecting signs etc).

don’t go mad with the quotes, the vinyl cost will be the same regardless of substrate so, if in your shoes, i’d simply offer the foamex or composite in future, only two quotes required. if still asked for cheaper you could offer the fluted stuff at a £1 or two cheaper than the foam, don’t discount it by much and yuo’ll have a beter chance of selling the higher quality stuff.

I don’t think i’ve sold a fluted panel for a sign in 3yrs now! tell a lie, a scaffold company order about twice a year to replace their scaffold signs in fluted, otherwise i don’t offer it at all now.

the customer will appreciate good quality signage far more than cheap, especially a year on!

Hugh

[Ezekiel Ikhinmiwn]

Thanks again guys for all the support and encouragement Its appreciated… and well needed. 😀

Can anyone point me in the best direction to pick up some of the other materials mentioned above.

Eze