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    Posted by Phill Fenton on 19 December 2005 at 13:58

    This is a sign put up this morning.

    It was done using Corel Photopaint to give the lettering a Moulded Plastic effect. The original vector of the lettering was outlined in black to give a contour to cut the lettering out. All printed on a Cadet printer and applied directly to the cladding of the building


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    Shane Drew replied 19 years, 11 months ago 12 Members · 20 Replies
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  • Phill Fenton

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    19 December 2005 at 14:02

    Close up view


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  • Dave Bruce

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    19 December 2005 at 14:12

    Nice job Phil, good to see you putting that Cadet to good use.

    What is the cladding? it looks rippled and a nightmare to apply to, was a backboard not an option? Just curious.

    Cheers

    Dave

  • Lorraine Clinch

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    19 December 2005 at 15:12

    Nice one Phil!

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    19 December 2005 at 16:49

    It was a slightly corrugated steel cladding Dave. It went on very easily actually – done dry.

    The customer wanted lettering straight onto the cladding – we never discussed using a backing board as I have applied cut vinyl to this type of cladding before without any problems. I persuaded him to go for the print and cut option rather than to just use ordinary vinyl lettering. 😀

  • Richard Urquhart

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    19 December 2005 at 17:58

    looks good i wish i had a printer you are making good use of it i see

    the a looks very close to the p in the word repairers
    why is that ??

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    19 December 2005 at 18:13
    quote Richard Urquhart:

    the a looks very close to the p in the word repairers
    why is that ??

    No particular reason Richard – It’s just the formatting my software comes up with. I see what you mean though – maybe if I’d noticed it beforehand I would have manualy moved the “A” away from the “P”

  • Robert Lambie

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    19 December 2005 at 20:10

    that really looks dimensional phill. i had to zoom that because i thought it was just superimposed on the image. nice one mate, good to see your putting the machine through its paces!

    thanks for taking the time to post your work mate.

  • Carrie Brown

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    19 December 2005 at 20:31

    Nice work Phill, . …. I had to look closely a few times cause I too thought it was superimposed on the building.

    😀

  • Peter Normington

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    19 December 2005 at 20:54

    looks the dogs ballcocks Phil.

    Do you find you are justifying the cost of the cadet?

    just asked because you said you still do mostly cut stuff?

    Peter

  • Russ

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    19 December 2005 at 21:20

    looks class to me as well love the rounded effect, are the letters laminated and what vinyl did you use. Reason for asking is I would like to suggest it to a customer who is looking for something simular.

    Regards Russ.

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    19 December 2005 at 21:21

    nice one phil…..looks great 😀 you seem to be getting into the swing of your cadet, you lucky thing……..i cant get mine to print & cut 🙄

    nik

  • Roy Roffey

    Member
    19 December 2005 at 22:07

    Nice work, these machines can knock out some great effects if you got the imagination. just done a mini fleet of vehicles using images and gradual fades, couldn`t do without mine now.
    😀

    are you using troop nic??

    i had this problem and found it to be the cut path in the design software

    may be a option

    roffs

    ( great machine though )

  • Shane Drew

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    19 December 2005 at 22:12
    quote Russ:

    looks class to me as well love the rounded effect, are the letters laminated and what vinyl did you use.
    Regards Russ.

    I ‘d be interested to know this too phill. Good job too

  • Nicola McIntosh

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    19 December 2005 at 22:16
    quote Roy Roffey:

    are you using troop nic??
    i had this problem and found it to be the cut path in the design software
    may be a option

    ive got that bit sussed roff thanks, in illustrator, works great, its when i go to cut after printing, drying and laminating…..the cut always starts about six inches lowere than the design….i will check it out tomorrow 😉

    quote :

    ( great machine though )

    your not wrong there…..i love me cadet too :lol1:

    nik

  • Roy Roffey

    Member
    19 December 2005 at 22:31

    aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

    its not just me, im having the same problem when using coral – troop
    i think i remember a post regarding this problem and i also think it was phill who posted it.

    are you finding its paying for itself nic ?? mines on non stop at the moment and i just hope it continues

    roffs

  • Phill Fenton

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    19 December 2005 at 23:08

    I used Oracal 3651 series solvent print vinyl. I didn’t laminate because I don’t think it is necessary for a sign on a building. In any case, If I had laminated, the extra thickness would have made the application over the small corrugations more difficult.

    I’m planning to re-do my van soon with print and cut and have decided not to laminate that either as an experiment to see how well the solvent print copes unlaminated on a vehicle over time. Up until now I have laminated all prints done on the Cadet that are going on vehicles – but would like to be able to avoid having to do so if I thought the solvent print finish would be able to cope.

    Peter – The Cadet has basicly taken over doing the work I used to use the PC 600 for. This consisted of mainly labels. I am still doing labels at the same price as I did when using the PC600, but with the lower running costs make more profit for the same output. I am also printing much more work that I would previously have done in cut vinyl (e.g safety signs). I believe the machine is more than paying it’s way though it’s often hard to quantify how much profit it is making. I love to experiment with the machine and wouldn’t be without it now.

    Nik – I’m not sure what is causing your problem but it should be very capable of printing and cutting every bit as well as the colorcam did. Maybe it’s a calibration issue. Speak to the boffins at B&P 😀

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    19 December 2005 at 23:14

    it is roffs …..i would say its nearly half paid for by now, ive been getting big jobs from regular customers…who have been waiting on me getting the cadet…so yes im glad i got one 😉

    phil….its a ‘me’ doing something wrong no doubt, i will have a bash at it again tomorrow………. 😉

    nik

  • Phill Fenton

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    20 December 2005 at 08:57

    Here’s a picture taken from a different angle. This is to try and quell the ugly rumours circulating that the lettering was superimposed onto a photgraph 😉


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  • George Elsmore

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    20 December 2005 at 09:01

    you obviously know how to use the add perspective tool in coreldraw 😉 😉

    George

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    20 December 2005 at 13:03
    quote Phill:

    I’m planning to re-do my van soon with print and cut and have decided not to laminate that either as an experiment to see how well the solvent print copes unlaminated on a vehicle over time. Up until now I have laminated all prints done on the Cadet that are going on vehicles – but would like to be able to avoid having to do so if I thought the solvent print finish would be able to cope.

    Phill, I have tried this already. Probably because we have harsh UV here (more skin cancer in Qld per population than anywhere else in the world..sadly), but a solvent print I did on a delivery van as a trial, has lost its vibrance and is rather bleached after about 9 months. I did a second van with the same pictures but laminated and the vibrance is still obvious after the same period. So much so, that he wants to rip the unlaminated one off this weekend as it looks pretty bad when both vehicles are parked side by side.

    In OZ, I would be reluctant to sign a building face unlaminated for the same reasons. Acid rain and polution is very abrasive, and I’d be concerned the life expectancy would not be very good.

    I’d imagine your weather is probably kinder to you there tho.

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