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Vinyl for Skis on ipf8100
Anybody printed graphics for Skis and Snowboards?
Ive just been asked to produce designs and the printed image to be set on a pair of skis and a snowboard. I’m guessing that the canon ipf8100 will print the graphic onto a good quality vinyl but will a liquid laminate be suitable to finish or is something more robust required?
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At what stage of production are the snowboards and skis in……i.e. are you producing the graphics that will be incorporated in manufacture or is this post production graphics. Are they for a rec or pro skiier/rider and are they for a 1 off event or designed to last (a little)………….
Not sure if you still get it, but you used to be able to get a soft 0.5mm clear laminate to protect ski tops from edge cuts etc (like when you cross your tips!!!)
Just a few more questions that may help others answer
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I have "wrapped" skis and snowboards but with standard cast vinyl not printed. On the snowboard it lasted round 2 months but the board broke so the test was over. I was told it was still looking spot on though.As for skiis i’ve only done it for promo shoots or for 1 weeks skiing on
Dave
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Are you sure the canon is capable of printing vinyl?
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I’d say the Canon is printing to a coated vinyl. My experience with liquid laminate over coated vinyl prints is that it will not stand up to much abuse, compared to lamination film, before it starts peeling away.
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The skis and snowboards are actually old so they are for post production. Basically just to make them look better. Our local Scottish resorts tend to get some horrible weather, wind, rain, snow, icy conditions, not like you get in France David. I really have no idea how long it will last. I have 2 old snowboards that I guess I will be using as guinea pigs first.
The canon does print onto a coated vinyl. Ive only had the machine for a month now and not printed any vinyl yet so thats the first test!
I will let you know how I get on!
Gary
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Is this the graphic on top of the skis or underneath them?
Just asking because you’d want a film that was capable at lower temperatures.
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The graphic has to go on top of the skis, the bottom of the ski is a completely different process that I don’t think is possible to change. its all done at the factory.
It would have to put up with some crappy temperatures and abuse but even new skis start to get scratched and chipped after a few weeks of use so if the customer has to change the graphic rather than buying new skis it would be better.
Just want to make sure that the graphic doesnt come flying off on the first descent!!!
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From the liquid laminate point of view.
I’ve done this with vinyl for stickers for were applied to surf boards. They get a lot of abuse and held up really well.
I gave it two coats to really protect it.
I can’t talk about the durability of pigment inks outdoors but I’ve been told its a pretty short life span. But if your graphics have a short life span then go for it.
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quote Jason Xuereb:From the liquid laminate point of view.I’ve done this with vinyl for stickers for were applied to surf boards. They get a lot of abuse and held up really well.
I gave it two coats to really protect it.
I can’t talk about the durability of pigment inks outdoors but I’ve been told its a pretty short life span. But if your graphics have a short life span then go for it.
Sorry to hijack but which liquid laminate do you use?
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From what I’ve been told the pigment inks will last 2-3 months outdoors depending on the light conditions (In scotland its rather dull so would probably get about 10years!!).
I spoke to the Canon engineer, post buying the machine and said that if it’s laminated it can last up to 3 years?
Not too sure about that but would be interested to know what length of time other pigment ink users are getting.
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Paul: It’s a product we have down here called Vipond Digiclear. http://www.viponds.com.au/pdfs/uv_digi_clear.pdf
Gary: Sounds a bit far fetched. In the solvent world lamination is quoted to adding 1 year to the life of the inks.
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To be honest I though it would be a bit far fetched too. I will give it a try and will have a look into that vipond laminate also.
The ski/boardin season is almost over here anyway and I will do one of my sowboards first to see what happens. We have indoor snowdomes here that I go to once or twice a month which will give it a bit of a test anyway.
Will let you know how I get on with monthly updates and pictures, ha ha
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