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Very sticky vinyl for cutting text
Hi All
is there a vinyl with a very high tack that can be used for cutting text? Most seem to be for printing.
I’ve got some ww100 and it doesn’t like text. I can get down to a 50mm c/h on a helvetica but I need to get 10mm text out of it. White is fine. It’s to go on a badly, gloss rollered hoarding. Any info greatly accepted. My only other thought was to use banner grade vinyl.
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Hi graze
Ww100 is a wall wrap material I believe from all print supplies which is not sticky as such as meant to heat into walls which we have purchased – they also do a very high vinyl in white which we also have and is very sticky – we did some small text to fit on a not very great surface but worked brilliantly
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Thanks Colin,
do you know what that other vinyl was?. When I picked up the ww stuff, they mentioned "Ultratack". What’s written on the back of the vinyl you have? -
printingfilm – premium grade on the rear
they do it in clear or white
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That’s brilliant,
thanks Colin -
If it needs to be cut then any standard vinyl will do the job, no point buying a print ready media when something like oracal 651 will do the job.
Really you should get the customer to do the board again just to ensure you have a reasonably flat surface to work from. Will look so much better anyway. -
Martin,
unfortunately, standard vinyl won’t touch it, the rollered finish on the panels is too much. Probably be fine if it was done in very hot summer but it either needs a mega soft vinyl or one with an adhesive that would stick your grandad to the ceiling.
The panels are about 120m long so no danger of a re-paint! 😀
What is Oracle 651? not familiar with that brand. -
oracal 751 and 651 would do that surley.
Details from Robert Horne on Oracal range -
Been there…done that.
Gloss rollered hoardings are unsuitable for ANY small text.
Got to ask…why 10mm? Is that just not stupidly small for a hoarding?
All done in 3M 50 series…pretty sticky stuff, but still wouldn’t trust it down to 10mm if it’s rough painted and lumpy!
http://www.uksignboards.com/download.php?id=19562
http://www.uksignboards.com/download.php?id=26738
Dave
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751 is my vinyl of choice, as I know it will last on most surfaces/environments. Its a dream to cut and weed and with it being 50 microns thick (and cast) will conform to the most uneven of surfaces.
By the sounds of the board your fitting to, the problem is not the adhesive, but surface area in contact. Use a low tac application tape so the battle of the glues is won by the vinyl. Use some heat and work the vinyl into the board…
A working knowledge of the mechanical properties of your sign materials is going to keep you out of trouble….
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Like Graham says, use a low tack application tape or the clear application tape I use seems to release much easier than a paper tape but not sure if that is just me lol.
Apply & post heat before removing application tape & there shouldn’t be a problem. If the hoarding board is so uneven that it won’t stick then that will distort the text possibly to the point that at 10mm you wouldn’t be able to read it properly anyway.
Like Dave has said why 10mm, does seem small for a hoarding board & you would need to be within a few feet to read it. -
50 microns is good, that sounds the most promising. The small text is just part of a construction company logo. There’s no doubt that the surface is rubbish but I do have a tendency to experiment.
David, I see you did the heat gun thing on some of the hoardings, did it stay on ok? I’ve found that with some calendared vinyl it can revert back after a while.
I phone Robert Horne a couple of hours ago, listened to the ‘on hold’ messages for about 15 minutes, then got bored.
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Calendered vinyl will try to return to it’s original shape due to the way it is manufactured, the more it is stretched the more likely it is to break or come away.
A cast vinyl doesn’t react the same way & once it is fitted post heating to the recommended temperature will reset the memory so it stays in place where you put it.
Cast vinyl’s do also seem to grab a bit more than calendered which might also be an advantage for you. -
of course, the bigger stuff gets done properly…….
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quote Graze:I phone Robert Horne a couple of hours ago, listened to the ‘on hold’ messages for about 15 minutes, then got bored.
Never been on hold with RH, usually answered within 3 rings…… 😛
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thanks for all the advice. I think I’ll gibe that 50micron stuff a test.
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