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Using Signboards via iPhone & ipad
I don’t know if anyone else has noticed or has issues with viewing posts/threads on the iPhone & iPad.
The problem seems to be you can’t scroll down through them?
Is it me or has anyone else noticed this and is there a way to rectify it Rob?
Having just got an iPad will be using it as a laptop replacement when away at weekends!
Nigel
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ah!
on my android the latest posts will not scroll every thing else ok
chris
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Chris, exactly the same here I’m sure some very small tweaking could sort this!
Nigel
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I have the same problem, and it is annoying,
is it the iphone or the site that is the problem?
Peter
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Same problem here!
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a pic would help
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how
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Dave
a pic wont help
on the recen tpost window there is no scroll bar so only the last half dozen or sposts can be seenPeter
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i don’t have a problem with my bb 😀
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It happens on any touch screen device. Anywhere that you would ‘click’ and ‘drag’ such as scroll bars can’t be implemented yet on a touch screen device. I have tried most of the different browsers on the iPhone/iPad and none of them have it. Something about if you are pointing at something on screen you can click but not drag. If the scroll bar was there and you touched it, in pulling it down it would pull the whole screen down with your touch. It need better software so that when you click on the scroll bar and hold, it changes from blue to red then you can scroll it.
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just done recent posts on my mw 6.5 touch screen HD2… no problems… it exactly the same as the website as a normal computer
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Ahem…..two finger scroll works fine on ipad 🙂
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its not the site… i think it comes down to your mobile devices browser ability or settings. i am no techy expert and this is merely a guess, but "i think" that part is creted by a "java script" or some form of script that your mobile device has to have. im only saying this because i read in the past blackberry didnt have java scripts in their older phones. my OLD blackberry could view the site perfectly, but i couldnt use the "latest topics" scroll bar function. everything else was perfect. however, since i upgraded my phone to the new Blakberry Bold 9700, i can view everythng perfectly fine, even scrolling latest posts works perfect.
hence my reason to say its down to the mobile phones abilities, "not the site".
there is a work around for you if your phone hasnt got the scrol bar functionality. just visit the homepage and click "last 24 hrs" link at the top and it will show you the posts.
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lol @ rob… the only bit you got right about that post is "your not a techy expert" lmao 🙄 🙄 🙄 :lol1: :lol1:
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quote Dave Rowland:lol @ rob… the only bit you got right about that post is “your not a techy expert” lmao 🙄 🙄 🙄 :lol1: :lol1:
well Mr Gates, you tell us all why it works on some of the newest mobile devices and not the old? :lol1:
in short, is it the sites problem it doesn’t work on mobile devices or the mobile devices problem. or do you need another screen shot? :lol1:
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Newest? It don’t work on my brand new iPad and iPhone, I actually thought it a ploy of yours Rob so we all bought blackberries!
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quote Nigel Hindley:Newest? It don’t work on my brand new iPad and iPhone, I actually thought it a ploy of yours Rob so we all bought blackberries!quote Jon Marshall:Ahem…..two finger scroll works fine on ipad 🙂
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sorry Nigel, just meant on blackberry i found my relatively new Bold 9000 worked, just not the scroll function on latest topics. but on the same fone, but newest version Bold 9700, it works perfect. i read that javascript was something blackberries strugled with or didnt have, so i put that being the script error in question. so my line of thought was if it now works, then maybe thats been fixed. as i said, im guessing… :lol1:
i am sure big dave will come back with the answer once he has googled it enough, search his computer websites. :lol1: :lol1: because he clearly doesnt know just now. 😛 😉 :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
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no screen shot/video then i cant see… i dont have ipad.
i would photo my phone but my phone is my camera haha
I click "last 24hours" and i get scroll bars
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so how can you tell me my guess is rubbish when you dont even really know what the problem is? 😕 :lol1:
im joking obviously dave, but im posting what ive read and experienced mate. "im guessing also…" but in a nutshell, "for me at least" my older Blackberry 9000 bold had this problem. the new bold 9700 doesn’t. so not the site, it was the phones problem.
anyway… its NOT website scrolling function that has the problem. "that would be the browser"
its a scroll bar "within" a web page. "which i guess would be the pages function script"
so visit the homepage and you can scroll up and down, left to right no problem and view all the page, the links etc
but there is a little "scroll function"…"within" the homepage that you can "see" but not click and drag down.the last 24 hrs link works!
it shows a list of the last 24hrs posts. when you get to the bottom of the page there is "links" to the next page and so on…
So yes you get "page scroll" function which works anyway…hope this helps in your analysis? 😉 :lol1:
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oh the "tickertape" for the buy/sell etc oh that… yes that is a javascript function that will render as load of text in some browsers
personally i would just delete those three items as they not really worth while, the content is always old and always displays too many, needs to be configured to 1 week search or last three items, if not disabled.
no problem on my Opera browser on WM6.5
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I know about anything techie stuff either but I know Rob, that you are a big fan of blackberry as it’s never been mentioned I figured it must work on other ie your systems/ mobile at first I thought it may just be me. The iPad it’s just a larger version of the iPhone so not sure what John means! It may be a browser issue but feel it could be sorted another way via the site too. You have given the last 24hr option though so it’s a way round it!
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quote Dave Rowland:oh the “tickertape” for the buy/sell etc oh that… yes that is a javascript function that will render as load of text in some browsers
personally i would just delete those three items as they not really worth while, the content is always old and always displays too many, needs to be configured to 1 week search or last three items, if not disabled.
no problem on my Opera browser on WM6.5
no dave, we are not talking about the ticker tape. "scroll bar on latest topics" 🙄
FYI, they update as posts are made dave, quote requests and files being swapped are posted daily. so they update daily themselves. the shop updates update when prodcts become avialable by suppliers.
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quote Nigel Hindley:I know about anything techie stuff either but I know Rob, that you are a big fan of blackberry as it’s never been mentioned I figured it must work on other ie your systems/ mobile at first I thought it may just be me. The iPad it’s just a larger version of the iPhone so not sure what John means! It may be a browser issue but feel it could be sorted another way via the site too. You have given the last 24hr option though so it’s a way round it!
Not sure i follow mate?
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Actually IT may well be a vbscript and flash problem
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oh i see
without a mouse its hard and same with dropdown list
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The two finger scroll works on iPad and iPhone. RTFM 🙂
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i had a look, basically it is a straight-forward table which is forced to 300pixels, so scroll bars appear automatically.
The only way is to make a phone compatible template and stick it on something like m.uksgniboards.ccom but that might be a bit too much work for the wee lad.
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quote Jon Marshall:The two finger scroll works on iPad and iPhone. RTFM 🙂
Yes Jon I know, use it all the time when I have scroll bars. The problem here is that the scroll bars don’t show. Going to try all the browsers that are available for iPhone to see if one works.
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Nope, Opera doesn’t work, nor does safari
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quote David-Foster-:quote Jon Marshall:The two finger scroll works on iPad and iPhone. RTFM 🙂
Yes Jon I know, use it all the time when I have scroll bars. The problem here is that the scroll bars don’t show. Going to try all the browsers that are available for iPhone to see if one works.
It still works. I’m posting this on my iPad and it works on my iPhone 4 as well.
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quote Dave Rowland:i had a look, basically it is a straight-forward table which is forced to 300pixels, so scroll bars appear automatically.
The only way is to make a phone compatible template and stick it on something like m.uksgniboards.ccom but that might be a bit too much work for the wee lad.
dave, my turn now mate… >>>>> :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
quote Jon Marshall:It still works. I’m posting this on my iPad and it works on my iPhone 4 as well.thank you very much Jon… :appl: :appl:
"although the same phones"… it seems, some phones work, some phones dont. my guess is it is some sort of setting, may be even the network you use. i haven’t a clue… the fact is. its NOT the site but the limitations to the phones ability.
quote Dave Rowland:but that might be a bit too much work for the wee lad.If i thought for a second you were correct dave, ide consider it. but the fact is… you were mocking my views and opinions earlier in this thread and only now grasping the actual problem!!! now it might me too much work for me? :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
FYI…
A) I don’t code anything on UKSB as you know.
B) I have far too much pending projects behind the scenes to even think about getting our web guys involved in a site coding restructure to fix a little scroll bar function on a small number of handheld browsing devices.The bottom line is…
various folk with popular mobile devices are saying they have no problems viewing UKB.
Various folk with the same mobile devices are "having problems" veiwing UKSB.
for me… this comes down to the phones ability.if someone can come along with very good knowledge on the subject and clearly tell me why this is happening. and "if" its down to the site or phone… i don’t see why i should waste any time on this subject. because until now, including myself… nobody really has a clue who is at fault.
sorry, not trying to be disrespectful to anyone at all… just think the guessing game is a bit too long winded for me to participate in. 😕
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I confirm what Rob is saying. It’s NOT the site but the limitations of the phones ability or software. I have tried other sites with embedded scroll windows and the scroll bars don’t show on them either.
What I can’t understand is were some people say it works on some iPhones and not others 😕 Software isn’t arbitrary. It works the same on the same configured hardware all the time.
Are we talking about the same scroll bars?
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Yep – 2 finger scrolling definitely works on iPhone 4. The scroll bars don’t appear, but if
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Thanks Jamie for clearing that up 😉
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perhaps my 2 fingers are too far apart 😉
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Thank you David and Jamie… we are getting some place now. :thumbsup:
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well I just checked that little vertical scroll bar on Recent Posts, it doesn’t work… this is Opera… so I stand corrected.
And regards the site being to blame… well yes it is… its all about site friendliness across devices, have you ever seen m.facebook.com and touch.facebook.com ?
Websites are going thru another stage of evolution now with smaller devices and the bigger problem with smaller devices is BIG FINGERS and not forgetting that Televisions are starting to show signs of internet connectivity, although your target audience is the browser based on a mac or PC, a website should always be tested on as many devices /configurations as you have to hand, that’s a web-designer policy. PC and Macs will find it tough in the next 5 years for their existance, however we need them for designing but with toys like Google Docs with the cloud you dont really need a PC/Mac at home/office, just a Device.
TBh I wouldn’t change it… leave it as it is, there is more then one way to do Last posts.
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I have an Android device, which will not show the recent post scroll bars, I’ve been advised to try a different browser. The same tech did also add that some site are more small device friendly that others. So it would seem that it’s both the browsers and the site that could change for the better.
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quote Jamie Wood:Yep – 2 finger scrolling definitely works on iPhone 4. The scroll bars don’t appear, but if
you scroll on the list it works.2 finger scrolling works on the iPhone 3GS too.
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Yep it does too. Tried earlier and couldn’t do it, a bit of practice and it works.
Cheers
Gary
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two fingers ha ha yes it does, how strange! two fingers close together gently scroll up and down! 🙂 😀 😀 🙂
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quote Dave Rowland:And regards the site being to blame… well yes it is… its all about site friendliness across devices, have you ever seen m.facebook.com and touch.facebook.com ?
Websites are going thru another stage of evolution now with smaller devices and the bigger problem with smaller devices is BIG FINGERS and not forgetting that Televisions are starting to show signs of internet connectivity, although your target audience is the browser based on a mac or PC, a website should always be tested on as many devices /configurations as you have to hand, that’s a web-designer policy.
Dave, i think Reading the replies on this thread alone tells you the site is compatible with two of the worlds most popular phones, as well as the new ipad.
UKSB "IS" already compatible with all phones i know of that are web accessible.
the single function in question which is an embedded "scroll bar" does work in the newest most popular phones worldwide, but not in some older phones or those that have limited functionality. (which i still put down to the mobile device, not the site. remember the web was here first, the phone developers are making "them" more accessible) However, even those with this single compromised function. has the option of clicking "last 24hrs" and they get a full list of the recent posts in Phone freindly format. so UKSB "does cator" for 99% if not all…
Comparing Facebook and UKSB is hardly the same thing. we do not have 200 million visits per day, nor do we have an around the clock web developing team with an unlimited budget. yes watching how the large web companies move forward is a good guide in the direction a site may follow, but as i have said above, I think UKSB being 99% compatible with mobile devices at the moment is sufficient for the time being.
quote Dave Rowland:TBh I wouldn’t change it… leave it as it is, there is more then one way to do Last posts.as i have said all along…
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huh?
all i am saying is websites and communities are evolving and technology is advancing at a rapid rate, our phones and gadgets are getting smaller as browser capabilities improve. The biggest problem with smaller devices is fingers and thumbs, so you have to find ways to improve the experience.I was quite surprised to see Ebay converted to mobile phone formats when i looked the other day and google has been for a long time. I beleive some betting sites have, it is the future and it just needs consideration of how to go about it.
As I said, I wouldn’t touch it but as sign making requires a PC with a reasonable monitor then it wont die just yet, PC/Mac screens get bigger and websites get lost on them but mobiles get smaller and hard to use, you cant win
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quote Dave Rowland:regards the site being to blame… well yes it is… its all about site friendliness across devices
sorry Dave, but my reply was based on this comment. as i have said all along, i believe it to be more the mobile device and the site at blame.
as for things getting smaller… well i believe they will now begin to get thinner and lighter rather than smaller. not because they cant be smaller, simply because these are now being used for a wide array of "visual" functions as opposed to just a phone handset. not forgetting the great many touch screen devices… not being able to click things due to large fingers, is this not a flaw on "their behalf" rather than anything else? touch screens are just that, they are supposed to be touched.
forget formatting websites being compatible with phones, i think the phone companies should worry more about their phones being compatible with their customers. 😉
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works on the HTC HD2
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It has been driving me nuts, couldn’t work out why my Ipad would scroll "within a scroll" if you like, sometimes, but mostly wouldn’t.
Just tried the 2-finger scrolling, and it works a treat, thanks to the person who suggested it several days ago (sorry, I forget who it was now, without reading the lot again!)I love my Ipad, I really ought to read the downloaded guide sitting in my library!
Lorraine
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First time I tried to scroll in the latest post box in my iphone 4 it worked and now I can get it to work again.
It was like I was moon walking with my left thumb and right index finger.
James
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