TONER TRANSFER

[Lorraine Buchan]

Hi James.

I have the magic touch system, and i’ve found it great. i not only use it for transfers but as an every day colour laser.

You can transfer to a variety of substrates with the different transfer materials and you can also print stickers too.

The space one system has a scanner included, it’s a seperate unit and not necessary but is hady as you can use scanner and printer just like a photocopier.

The printer as a stand alone costs around £999.

The fusers in the magic touch system have been altered so they run at a higher temperature. So to get good results with the transfers you would need to buy the fuser unit from Magic Touch. If you don’t the toner doesn’t stick to the transfer paper fully.

I buy all other consumables elsewhere as Magic Touch sell them at quite an inflated price.

Hope that helps

[James White]

Thanks for the info Lorraine very helpfull.

What supplier would you recommend for transfer paper?

James

[Tim Painter]

These machines Lorraine refers to are basically a Tektronix Phaser Laser printer (don’t confuse the wax printers) I believe.

Many colour lasers have the ability to slow the throughput down by selecting thicker media in the driver I have a Xerox DC 4 – (rebaged Magicolor 330 / Phaser 780 etc ) that will print on some pretty heavy card stocks in this mode but in normal print the toner won’t stay put.

This selection is best for Transfer material.

I believe the Magic touch system one is now way over priced with the fall in laser prices.

[Lorraine Buchan]

The magic touch printer is actually a panasonic!

I would advise to use the transfer paper which will work with your machine. So before you buy check with your prefered transfer paper supplier that it will work with the laser your looking to buy.

I use magic touch paper as i got the machine from them, so if anything goes wrong it’s all up to them. Not the printer company saying it’s the transfer paper or the transfer paper company saying it’s the printer.

The advantage of the magic touch system is that they provide drivers for the specific papers. so if your using the TTC3.1 paper you select that as the paper type, prevents all sort of problems.

The point i made about the fuser unit is from what they tell me and experiance, as i got a fuser unit from somewhere else and it was nowhere near hot enough even on thick paper setting, the toner just wouldn’t take.

I first entered the toner transfer market using a magicolour 2 desk laser, at the time the printer was nearly £1000, a couple of months laters while running transfer paper through it got jammed still under warranty i called out the engineer he took one look and said the paper stock your using isn’t normal and has voided your warranty, told me it would cost £950 to fix the printer – almost as much as it cost! then was off on his way.

I never got the printer fixed! – Maybe a lesson in there some where??

[James White]

Thanks for the replys comments noted.

Lorraine i have been speaking to ‘Magic Touch’ and they are reluctant to sell the printer seperate and asked for £1500 anyway a price which at the moment I can’t justify to myself as nowadays £750 would buy a decent laser.However I am impressed with the quality of the feel of there transfer paper when applied to products.

I am trying to find a laser printer that is most compatible to there system sureley there is one or they are excludig a lot of consumers from buying transfer paper from them.

Hope this all makes sense.

James

[Lorraine Buchan]

If you ask them i’m sure they will tell you which printers are compatable.

The spaceone system I have uses a panasonic KX-P8415 printer which you can find online at dabs.com and here for £830 +vat where I buy my consumables for it:

http://www.gaia-tech.com/shop/gaia%20shop/

The other advantage of this machine in my opinion is that it is almost entirely consumables, what i mean by this is all the internals are replaceable, pull the old damage bit out slot in the new bit.

[Kevin.Beck]

Haven`t I read that parts in the machine have a built in life span.

ie, after so many copies, some part will exspire etc.

[Lorraine Buchan]

Thats almost correct Kev, each of the internal parts of the machine are replaceable. But the parts you wouldn’t normally remove in other lasers have around a 300,000 page count, most other lasers pack up well before that

[Dan Nilsson]

I did some testruns with my Epson C1000 on some of their products.

The shirts I printed looked pretty good out of the heat press but just after one wash many of the samples looked pretty bad.

Maybe it’s my printer that’s not up to standard, although it’s rated as compatible with all of their media.

I did find the TTC 3.1+ and OBM 5.2 quite nice though after the first wash. I guess I’ll have to get them in the washer for a few more times though before I can say anything more.

[Tim Painter]

Maybe a Panasonic Badge Lorraine but doesn’t mean its a Panasonic. Many lasers are re bagged as I stated I have a Xerox DC4 also knows as.

QMS 330
Phaser 780
Epson 8000/8500 series

Maybe diff main boards but the engines are basically the same.

I’m still convinced the Space aka Panasonic was or is a Phaser laser not sure which model maybe 740

The general problem with the new breed of lasers is they are energy efficient and toners have a lower melting point so fusers also generate less heat ( being more enviromental) thus not all printers work.

[Tim Painter]

Just so I don’t get Lorraine telling me off…

I must correct last post to Tektronix Phaser 550.
The panasonic is basically this re badged with a little change to the display panel area.

A lot of the consumables may interchange. ( I’m not garanteeing)

The scanner with the space one is a QMS unit which is still sole as a scanner work with quite a few PCL printers to enable direct copying.

[Lorraine Buchan]

Well i’m no printer buff, I just go buy what it says on the tin 😆

But… my thoughts, why would magic touch rebadge a panasonic thats a rebadged tektronix phaser. why not buy a tektronix and rebadge that, surely it would be more cost effective for them?

I dunno maybe its the same thing happening as with the renult traffics etc..
They all get made in one place then the other companies buy so many finnish them off to their own spec and sell them as thier own.

I dunno about the scanner being a QMS it is as far as i’m aware a brand i’ve never heard of before.

The only thing I can say is having brought everything from Magic Touch if i get any problems whatsoever my port of call it Magic Touch, no messing about with it’s the sofware, its the printer, it’s the scanner, its the paper etc…. they are responsible for all one phone call and it’s sorted out!

[James White]

Hi,

Thanks for all the replies.After a lot of investigating have bought from Magic Touch basically for the reasons echoed by Lorraine.

James