Tiled cuts

[Peter Normington]

I am not familiar with roland, but you may need to bleed the print and set the overlap to say 5 or 10 mm.

Peter

[Chris Wool]

so the softwear does not give me unpredictable results i set up each panel separately in coral with a cut path if required that way you have complete control as to wear the joins are.

chris

[Chris Jones]

quote Chris Wool:

so the softwear does not give me unpredictable results i set up each panel separately in coral with a cut path if required that way you have complete control as to wear the joins are.

chris

That’s true… I had considered this, but was hoping for a less intrusive step; seems it would be most useful though.

Thanks for the responses 😀

[Peter Shaw]

The screen you are showng has nothing to do with tiling. I use tiling with Wasach RIP which is the full version of Colorip and it works fine, including overlaps.

Are you doing something wrong or have you displayed the wrong screen?

Peter

[Chris Jones]

quote pshaw:

The screen you are showng has nothing to do with tiling. I use tiling with Wasach RIP which is the full version of Colorip and it works fine, including overlaps.

Are you doing something wrong or have you displayed the wrong screen?

Peter

Yea, I didn’t think it did at all, but I can’t seem to find any other places within color rip that have to do with the cutter mechanism. Perhaps it’s something that needs to be adjusted via the versacamm’s main panel…

[Peter Shaw]

Have you checked to see if among the misc items on the drop down menus of the first screen on Colorip, you have a zero value in EPS Border setup?

If not you are leaving a “white” border around everything printed and of course may not know it.

Peter

[Chris Jones]

quote pshaw:

Have you checked to see if among the misc items on the drop down menus of the first screen on Colorip, you have a zero value in EPS Border setup?

If not you are leaving a “white” border around everything printed and of course may not know it.

Peter

wow. is that all it really is… yea the setting is 0.1 under that – I didn’t realize that’s what that setting was for.

Hopefully that does it! thanks for the help.

[Chris Jones]

quote pshaw:

Have you checked to see if among the misc items on the drop down menus of the first screen on Colorip, you have a zero value in EPS Border setup?

If not you are leaving a “white” border around everything printed and of course may not know it.

Peter

That’s helped with some mis-sizing issues I’ve been having, but apparently no effect on this specific problem; O well – looks like the only way is to manually seperate the image externally and print seperate pieces.

Thanks for the input all.

[Peter Shaw]

DO NOT GIVE UP

There must be an answer. I’ve used Colorip with our previous Cadet which is still a Versacamm underneath without this problem. I currently use Troop V5 which is Wasatch which is Colorip with our Cadet and do not have this problem.

Did you re-RIP the image with the line? If not the border might have remained.

Have you checked the settings on the tiling page carefully?

Peter

[Chris Jones]

how I use it is this:

I have a 4′ x 8′ (1.22m x 2.44m I believe, sorry if it’s a bad conversion) sign to be printed. Most of our full digitals are created in photoshop or illustrator and saved at 1/4th size for raster and 1/10th size for vector (to limit file size without quality loss).

So I’ll open one of these tif (if raster) eps (if vector – with a cut path around it). For raster I do not have a cut path – there’s an option to outline the print job within the program that I use. Once the image is in ColorRip I increase the size via the “scale percet” accordingly (400% or 1000%); also rotate if needed. Then I go to “Tiling” and set 4 tiles for a 4×8 printed sign. Rip the 4 tiles, and print. I’ve tried setting anywhere from 0 to 0.5″ overlap with the tiles, but no matter what the overlap there is… there’s always a very thin white line between the panels.

Of course, from the regular viewing distance for these larger signs you’d never notice the lines, but upclose it’s noticeable. There doesn’t seem to be any associated adjustments to make via the software, so I’m assuming I need to play with the cutter settings on the versacamm itself.

[Peter Shaw]

That’s a clear explanation.

My immediate thought would be that this is not a tiling problem but a cut/print alignment problem.

If your tile has a thin white band on one side, does it have an equivalent undercut onto the graphic on the other side? If so that is the problem.

There are user menu adjustments for this but in practice they are all but useless. Make sure you carry out an Environment match from the menu. This is supposed to align the 2 measurings systems – print differs from cut.

If these adjustments don’t help you need to get into the maintenance menu for the better alignment setups. I would suggest discussing this with your supplier and have an engineer do it.

Peter