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  • The best Vinyl for use underwater

    Posted by Jason Davies on 5 July 2010 at 21:20

    We have been asked to produce some labels for a boat club, sent them some metamark MD5 and Spandex Ultra Destructible to test and these have both come off. I have asked the usual questions, but can someone recommend a digital vinyl which is durable enough to stay on the product whilst underwater, particularly oars??

    Thanks

    OwenTaylor replied 15 years, 2 months ago 7 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    5 July 2010 at 21:25

    I cant help with digital grades but i would recon any reputable cast would do the job.
    one thing though, who is applying the vinyl for testing and how well has it been fitted? hope its been put on dry too… 😕 :lol1: 😉

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    5 July 2010 at 21:27

    Thanks Rob, my questions as well. It’s not local, but I will send some cast through and see how it goes.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    5 July 2010 at 21:38

    Now if you bagged a submarine job then i want to hear all about it

  • Lynn Normington

    Member
    5 July 2010 at 21:52

    Jason most of the decals go on the top of the oars so it’s really only a splash of water, we used to do them for the Cambridge uni mens and ladies, first with the gerber then with the mimaki no special vinyl, no complaints, they don’t have to last that long as they change sponsors so often. so don’t stress about it.

    Lynn

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    5 July 2010 at 21:54

    well its a contradiction in terms, how do you apply dry to a submarine?

    We supplied Cambridge boat teams with oar stickers, never had a problem. all vinyl, when you think about it, is waterproof, it does not fall off in heavy rain does it?
    the problem may be with the substrate, if the oars dont have a smooth varnish finish, for example, then water could ingress from the wood grain.

    if the graphics are not totally immersed for long periods, and not subject to high speeds, then the vinyl is not the problem.

    Just thinking aloud,

    Peter

  • Graeme Harrold

    Member
    5 July 2010 at 22:49

    As all have said as long as you use a good vinyl (cast will definitely do) then its all down to substrate and surface prep. When it comes to boats and oars, there is plenty of waxes and oils used on these to help repel water. Down side is it repels adhesive too.

  • Jason Davies

    Member
    6 July 2010 at 16:43

    Thanks to everyone for the replies, we are trying some cast vinyl today. I’ll let you know how it goes.

    Jason

  • OwenTaylor

    Member
    7 July 2010 at 07:33

    Are the oars made of wood? If the oars are plastic then you may need a vinyl that will stick well to low energy surfaces such as a motocross vinyl. The LG LD3888 from Allprint would probably do the job if the cast stuff fails.

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