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Supplier of a Chrome wrapping film please?
asked before about chrome wrap anyone know of a supplier??? anyone know about the avery stuff i have seen on youtube please help my ear is bleeding with all the grief i am getting from my better half!!
thanks jim
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To my knowledge there is only one true Cast Chrome vinyl on the market and that is by 3M.
This cast chrome is NOT a wrapping film, nor is it promoted, advised or warranted by 3M to be used for wrapping. Even though the top end bentleys, farrari’s etc that are becoming more and more popular in chrome and gold mirror finish are all done in this film.
Further more, most of the demanding shaped chrome wraps seen have been achieved by mounting/laminating the chrome on top of another high end wrapping film to "aid" its application.
note: Chrome cast is not cheap. coupled with mounting & finishing onto another reputable wrap film adds to the material costs significantly.
the chrome’s, golds and other mirror finished films are NOT vinyl and simply cannot be used as a wrapping film. why? because "they do NOT stretch".
these films are NOT even vinyl, they a polyester type film. a bit like tin-foil with adhesive on the back! 😀So for me, the closest i have seen to a mirror finish film that "could be used" for wrapping is the 3M cast.
This is avilable from both William Smiths & Spandex. both authorised 3M distrubutors.so there is my take on it for now…
all that said, yes, i have heard others are now pushing chrome this, carbon that and many other exciting films. but do they warrant it for the applications it is being promoted for? my guess is, like 3M they do not. that is where the gamble comes into play from the likes of us.
I have also read the thread here on the boards suggesting Avery have launched a chrome wrap. this is not the case, the video they refer to on youtube states its a concept chrome that maybe launched in 2012. Howver, that "maybe in the USA" if at all.
To add to that i have already contacted Robert Horne who are the largest distributor in the UK of Avery films and not only did they tell me they do not have it, they werent aware of it even becoming available.as i said, i am sure there will be many companies stating this and that, but it doesnt mean that its warrantied for the application. If the manufacturers wont warrant their products then its because they themselves have their doubts.
Now for me personally, chuck in the cost of laminating chrome cast onto another wrap film, time to apply and the money you "should be" charging for the effort. i dont want the headache of some disgruntled Bentley owner chapping my door when something terrible has gone wrong.
just my opinion…
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Hexis ARE releasing their chrome wrap in Europe. It seems most of the people having the chrome wraps done are not really that concerned about the cost or potential pitfalls. They are usually footballers or playboys with money to burn.
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well john i aint a footballer or a playboy my better half just wants her mini turning chrome!!! and rob i understand what your saying as regards to warranty! but try telling my other half that lol she dont care just wants a chrome mini for christmas!! 🙄
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as jon says Hexis are about to launch one in the new year.
I was at Hexis earlier this week and the prices being talked about was £160 a metre 😮
it will need to be footballers etc wanting it as no spotty chav is going to afford it!
Paul
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well i aint a spotty chav nor is the missus! she wants it done for promo for her company! so she who must be obeyed must be obeyed but not at £160 a metre lol i nearly fell off my chair laughing!!!! :lol1: as i dont think hexis will sell very much of it at that money!! defo cheaper to get it painted chrome then!!!
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wrap it in pearl colour flip and big chunks of chrome on the flat bits
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Cant wait for that really 🙂
That picture is from some sign show (similar to the Sign & Digital) in Netherlands (Holland if you like) something like 2-3 months ago.
Hexis UK have absolutely no clue about it (they never do to be honest :))
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Theres a new guy at Hexis who knows all the details. Cant remember his name though, sorry.
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not being funny guys, but if they have an excellent NEW product the full sales team should really be screaming from the roof about it.
That said….
Hexis appear to have really embraced the whole wrapping side of our trade over the past couple of years and actively pushing their products. so hats off to them for that. -
Strangely I had a phone call of Hexis today 🙂
They launching new colours in Uk and they gonna send me new samples, but having that conversation I couldn’t resist to not ask about chrome and he (Chris) confirmed that they launching that in February so im sure that on next Sign & digital it will be big thing. When I asked about price he said around £120 per metre (I expected bit more to be honest). Anyway I’m waiting for samples.
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:lol1: :lol1: :lol1: :lol1: how much a metre?????? loughing out loud or hexis are not a chance of many paying that!!! wake up and smell the coffee hexis keep your price low more people will buy it!!
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Jim no disrespect but I would imagine Hexis have priced it the best they can to sell. All depends what sort of investment they have already made in the films development and the production costs of the material. If 120 a metre is being talked about that may well be a RRP and we both know that we won’t be paying the RRP for the material.
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absolutely martin but what hexis need to realise in the current climate of which we are in you try telling a client that the material is 120 per meter and you need 15 meters so thats 1800quid before you even fit it! i want some for the girlfriends mini so i wont charge anything for fitting it obviously but if a client wanted it you have to tell them that price! plus fitting they are pricing themselves out of the market at that price i can assure you!
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quote Jim Airey:absolutely martin but what hexis need to realise in the current climate of which we are in you try telling a client that the material is 120 per meter and you need 15 meters so thats 1800quid before you even fit it! i want some for the girlfriends mini so i wont charge anything for fitting it obviously but if a client wanted it you have to tell them that price! plus fitting they are pricing themselves out of the market at that price i can assure you!
Does the same client go into a Ferrari dealership and expect to buy one for 15000 quid? If they want a car wrapped in chrome, they kinda need to pay for it, same as anything else. IMHO.
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If you consider most chrome wraps are being done in £60/m 3M plus with a base film and maybe an overlam too then it may be that the Hexis product is close to an equivalent price. Assuming it has some sort of clear laminate to protect from scratches.
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I personally think the price is not bad at all (assuming it is overlaminated) 🙂
Anyway, when I spoke with Kris he said a lot of things about it but what I actually read from between the words its gonna be like 3M DiNoc, so you can wrap the whole car but its not recommended to do it 🙁 -
Even at that price if people want it then they will pay for it, might not fit quite as much but those with the money will still buy it I am sure. Have a trip to anywhere like Knockhill or Crail where the boy racers hang out and speak to them about the money they spend on their cars, most of them have stereo systems worth far more than my cars worth.
Personally I don’t want to see a lot of it on the road anyway so it will make me happy. I can see the glare from the sun or a set of headlight blinding a lot of people which in my mind makes it pretty dangerous.
Could be wrong but I very much doubt it. -
We get asked for chrome wraps all the time, we normally explain that there are no manufacturer approved chrome vinyls available. So today to test the water, I said a new product is due in the New Year and quoted £2500.00 to wrap a Mini Cooper, the guy was very interested and left his contact details so we can contact him when it comes out.
Think people will pay for it because its totally different and thats always what car enthusiasts want, as well as tinting/wrapping etc. we have done car audio for over 20 years and we get young lads paying £2000.00+ for a stereo system in a car worth less than half that.
Ian.
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how ya can relate a ferrari for £15,000 to chrome wrap is beyond me??????? but if ya did want to !!!!!! a ferrari mondial is about that price!! (:) and i do agree about what people will pay for it!!!!! like anything, its always worth as much as anyone is willing to pay! but i personally would rather sell 1000 metres@£60per metre than 50metres @£160 per metre more ya sell more ya produce cheaper it becomes
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This all reminds me of Economics at college, supply, demand and equilibrium.
Ian.
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my take here is, 3M have the only cast chrome on the market that can be used to wrap with. however, its not a wrap film nor is it warranted. costs around £50 but still requires mounting onto othr wrap films etc before its ready to be wrapped with.
IF….
HEXIS have come up with an outright solution and a better alternative to the above, then why not charge £150.
for us guys, it means no extra costs on other wrap film to mount the chrome onto, less labour, less waste and so on. so when you add it all up, its not that much more expensive and as i said, if its better to work with then why not pay?as has also been said, bentleys, farraris, or high boy racer sports cars…. regardless. if they want the best they will pay for it. its upto us to sort out our own pricing, educate our customer and start making the proper money we should be making for this skilled aspect of our trade.
remember, i said "IF"
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Point is Robert, if no one else has a film like this on the Market then we have nothing to compare it to and absolutely no idea what the manufacturing costs are. You can’t compare it to any other wrap material on the market if the manufacturing process is not the same.
Not much point selling it at £60 a metre if it costs £70 a metre to manufacture :lol1: :lol1:
Plus as I have already said the £160 mentioned may well be a SRP & there aren’t many people in the trade going to be paying that.
Still Hexis must be pleased, all this speculation is certainly getting it talked about even before it’s officially released :lol1: :lol1: :lol1:
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hi martin
im not comparing it to the 3M chrome on a "like for like basis", i am just saying that "our only real alternative" is the 3M chrome.
i am also not knocking the price, im actually saying IF there is a film available and nobody else does it then "why not?" charge a premium on it. thats business at the end of the day…
as i said again… "IF" they have one… I doubt it though, but i am almost hoping to be proved wrong.
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i still think that chrome silver/mirror look should fail mot’s … its dangerous imo.
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So do I Dave & once the Insurance companies have attributed a few accident’s to it then maybe it will become an MOT failure
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quote Dave Rowland:i still think that chrome silver/mirror look should fail mot’s … its dangerous imo.
to be honest, i think so too, but depending on the amount used.
i recon it will continue until something official is put in place by the DVLA. until then your proably looking at the same scenario as the "show plate" number plates situation.
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I have just spoken to Hexis and have been given a price of £133.00+VAT per linear metre (that is the 5 roll price if you are familiar with their pricing structure) for the Chrome Wrap, available March – April. Have had a sample so it definitely exists.
Ian.
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quote Jim Airey:asked before about chrome wrap anyone know of a supplier??? anyone know about the avery stuff i have seen on youtube please help my ear is bleeding with all the grief i am getting from my better half!!
thanks jim
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Hexis are releasing the 1st wrapping Chrome vinyl in the uk which they tell me is fully comformable but i hear its going to be £136 a metre
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Avery just announced there wrap chrome but they say it is not for actual vehicle wrapping, only for trim parts. Which seems kind of pointless.
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quote Jon Marshall:Avery just announced there wrap chrome but they say it is not for actual vehicle wrapping, only for trim parts. Which seems kind of pointless.
I don’t know anything about the new Avery chrome, but i know other chrome’s aren’t actually wrapping films either. The 3M one for instance is a cast and is mounted onto another wrap film to aid application.
regardless to price at the moment. If Hexis can come up with a better solution then i think it can only be a good thing. if you want an all in one package with less production hassles then purchasing the more expensive film it is.
all these high end car owners know what they want and willing to pay for it. if you can offer the best solution then you, like hexis, should be charging a premium. obviously time will tell… -
Thread resurrection! About a year since this topic was disscussed, are we any closer to a true chrome wrapping film? As far as i know Hexis have never released theirs yet?
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I know Hexis chrome is now available, Im also sure the Avery chrome is available, i did have a play with the avery at the spandex open house, also got a good size sample of the avery conform chrome.
Hexis chrome is £144 + Vat per meter
But not sure how much avery chrome is, did ask at the open house but never got around to talking to one of the sales people
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some time has passed since this thread started… 😀
Avery do now have their own wrapping chrome. don’t quote me on this but its just under £100 per linear metre "i think". I also believe it is available via Robert Horne.
Oracal now also have a chrome wrapping film, i know this because i have a sample on my desk at work. I dont know prices as yet though but i think its due to be stalked by Robert Horne. not sure exactly when though…
Hexis as has been said have a chrome wrapping film too at around the £140 per linear metre mark.
3M i hear is re-developing their currant chrome, but when that’s due in the UK i don’t know.
would be good to get a sample of all 4 and see how the compare on a like for like test. 😀
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The 3M one is out in feb/march
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yeah ive read about the 3m chrome, i think its out in america, but not sure
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