supplier for pole brackets

[Peter Normington]

John
try your local commercial vehicle component stockists,
the will normally have stainless "U" clamps for exhausts, these would do the job.
or simply buy some flat ally strip from B&Q bend and drill to suit
Peter

[Robert Lambie]

You really need to buy the proper brackets peter, winging a job up to save money isn’t going to look good being supplied by a sign firm. if it comes down and hits someone and H&S inspect it, your done!

I am unsure the exact brackets you are after John… but sign clips can be found via various approved suppliers of road signage and the like.
http://www.williamsmith.co.uk/index.cfm … tentID=184
http://www.macleanelectrical.co.uk/
http://www.blackburnsmetals.com/

if its specific flagpole type fixings then try the various ones listed under banners, flags and bunting… on the UKSB Toolbar

[Peter Normington]

Rob I agree
but the stainlees steel u clamps are as good if not better than others.
Peter

[Robert Lambie]

Peter, on a daily basis i use various sizes of channel clips, back-to-back clips, channel banding fixings, projecting banner fixings, projecting banner fixings using banding etc the list goes on… they also vary from supplier to supplier like most things. but unless you know/see exactly what john is looking for it is better to steer him in the right direction and allow the suppliers of that product best advise him. as i said, if the sign comes down, he will have to repair it F.O.C. worse still, if it hits someone like the 30ft sign in Devon area did… who gets the blame?…. John!

no matter how strong etc… advising him to use a car exhaust fixing, or to bend a bit of flat-bar aluminum out of B&Q… is not the professional approach.

at the end of the day, depending on which type of fixings… clips start at around 60p each for a 76mm channel clip. sourcing the right one for the job is hardly going to break the bank. (and i am not saying he needs a 76mm clip, just giving an example of how cheap clips can be)

[David Rowland]

or sell a different idea, banner on a pole, http://www.lampbanners.co.uk or http://www.bannerflexeurope.com

However clamping a flag-pole might work but would it be thight enough to do that job, i would put banner up instead, these are tested etc. I had a lot of dealings with this company so i know fair bit.

[Peter Normington]

Rob if we are talking correct use etc
John was asking for clamps to fit a projecting sign to a flagpole, firstly is the flagpole horizontal or vertical? is the projecting sign just a panel or a lightbox?
does the size of the sign mean it needs to move in the wind?
The Clamps I mentioned are used for many fixing applications, not just exhausts.

OK the B&Q suggestion was off the top of my head, but not a beyond anyone with skills to manufacture a bracket…
We do need a bit more info though

Peter

[John McNickle]

Guys thanks for getting back to me so quickly, i have local suppliers for the likes of channel and clips etc but this is a sign that he wants projecting from the circular clips and not a banner, i know the chances of buying an off the shelf bracket that has the clamp and a 3′ lengh of 1" box are slim so i will need to get my welder to sort something for me

John

[Robert Lambie]

Yes we could come up with a pile of scenarios on what is needed "now" peter.
but doesn’t change the original advice given.

john "i think" i know what you are after now…
keep in mind your "wind load" the larger the panel the more pressure it will be under, especially if its high or in an exposed area. what i mean is, 1inch steel tubing may not be strong enough.
also what fixing you will use, many projecting banners are done using banding gear system, which i am not a fan of it. although it is widely used throughout the industry. (guess its just me :lol1:)

[John McNickle]

I know what you mean Rob, i was just out in the van there and i see all the council brackets are banded but i dont like the finish or think they look substantial enough.. this is down near the shore and can be windy so i was thinking more like a 2′ projection and mabey a box section inner frame and the panels rivited to it

[Peter Normington]

like I said Rob, not an off the shelf solution,
so if john needs to have some brackets fabricated, how will he ascertain they are fit for purpose? we all have to come up with solutions for unique jobs, and use our experience to decide what will work,
I suggested a method to fix to a pole, u bolt fixings are universally used, cant understand why you think it is not professional.
this is the sort of thing I was suggesting, and they are often stocked by commercial vehicle component suppliers in larger sizes,

http://www.bosunslockerchandlery.co.uk/ … gn=pid5437

Peter

[Tim Painter]

Try the other side tomorrow morning Rob…… :lol1:

Also the fact that can the pole take the load, no matter how well fixed.

[Robert Lambie]

quote Tim Painter:

Try the other side tomorrow morning Rob..

Sorry, i dont follow Tim?

Peter… It is just my opinion and i pointed it out. Your post read as i said mate, unprofessional. i was simply pointing something out that you yourself often do, if anyone else had done similar.
someone "asks for advise" on a specialist fixing and they are told to try a U-shape bracket thats used for a car exhaust or go to B&Q for a bit of flat bar and bend it and drill some holes. there was no elaboration, nothing… end of.
if we as sign makers do not know what should be used for a sign that could potentially kill someone, then we should seek professional advise. first port of call should be companies that fabricate this sort of thing everyday. hense why i suggested the trade suppliers. if they cannot offer the product off the shelf, or fabricate it on your behalf. then yes, its time to look for someone who can do this. but do it correct and for that they need spec to follow. so you could in effect, be back to square one.

quote John McNickle:

could anyone tell me where to get the brackets with the 2 half rounds that clamp around the pole?

Johns question is back at first base for him… "sourcing the parts"
you told him an exhaust bracket or to bend flat bar from b&q…

anyway… i would rather this thread stayed on track. it is just my opinion at the end of the day.

[Gary Birch]

Are the majority of flag poles fibre glass anyway? If so would you really want to clamp anything to it?? As Tim has suggested I would have my doubts doing something like this

Just my opinion

Gary

[John McNickle]

Ok guys, I don’t want any fall outs 🙂 I think Rob is on my wave length here but thanks for the input from everyone else, the flag poles are big free standing forecourt ones about 25′ tall and Ive never seen them made from fiberglass and as mentioned they are 112mm dia… peter has suggested a fixing method and i thank him for that but Rob got it right where i need the clamp and a projecting arm in one piece like the flag arms but a bit more substantial and stronger

again thanks for all the input, probably best i get my metal man to come down and see it, it just adds more to the job but i can sleep easier at night knowing its fixed well.. Was just wondering if such a thing was available "off the shelf"

John