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Strange wrap failure, advice please?
Hi all, had an old customer in today with a problem with a wrap we did for him in late 2009.
First of all the material is Grafywrap with matching laminate printed on my Versacamm SP300.
Looking at the material first of all it has become matt (some would pay for that look.. 🙄 ) and secondly it appears to be cracking….any suggestions as to what may have caused this?
we did another van for him, exactly same material etc a month or so before and that hasn’t suffered like this (apparently)
Any help or advice is much appreciated
cheers
stephen
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Was it outgassed?
What do they use to wash the vehicle with?
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Hi Jason, thanks for the reply.
yes it was out gassed for about 2 days, i have no idea what they was it in, if at all….
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I had this same thing happen on our vehicle. but it was on the roof and occured around the 2 year mark. I called it crows feet and looked like a problem in the laminate.
I am pretty sure Avery state a shorter life span for horizontal graphics as opposed to vertical. The sides of my vehicle were fine and it was mainly the room that was suffering from this affect.
So I’d put my money on UV exposure or a cleaning chemical.
Different vehicles will be parked in different places etc so won’t get the same treatment.
The vehicle we had the problem on was always outside even parked outside and never inside or under cover.
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Right, i understand…however, i printed some yellow for the bonnet of my van from the same roll and it hasn’t come out like that…
I must admit i am puzzled and would suspect it to have been what ever it has been cleaned with….
Anyway, some vandals caused some damage to his van and he is now looking at replacing it anyway, but it would be nice to have some answers….
Cheers
stephen -
other thing is have a look under the bonnet and see if the insulation is missing, must admit that i have some 7 yr silver that has done that but only on the horizontal surfaces. after 18 months
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okay will do
cheers
stephen -
Could pressure washing have caused this?
Love….Jill -
expansion & contraction rates usually cause this. ie black area on a bonnet, hot then cold etc, adhesive looks like its given up the ghost!
had it happen on a mini roof, acrylic adhesive mixes have quite a short life.
j
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Hi Stephen
Could the bonnet have been resprayed and the paint not left to out-gas long enough prior to wrapping???. That might explain why other work done at the same time hasn’t failed.
Or Is there the slightest slightest chance that you could have laminated that part of the print with a roll end of non wrap laminate???? I only ask as the last time I saw that kind of crazy paving type effect was where a monomeric laminate had been applied onto a polymeric base which resulted in the lesser grade laminate shrinking back and dragging the base underneath up into that effect.
Gill
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Hi Gill, thanks for the reply.
As far as i know the bonnet hasn’t been resprayed, although that wouldn’t effect it going matt surely?
No the vinyl and the wrap were from a well used roll and nowhere near to the end…..
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quote Stephen Ingham:As far as i know the bonnet hasn’t been resprayed, although that wouldn’t effect it going matt
Ummm your right……have you contacted Grafityp?? They might be able to shed some light on it….when you remove it send a section of it along with the photographs to them….see what they say??
Gill
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Something to do with Temperature change i think
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quote Chris Wool:other thing is have a look under the bonnet and see if the insulation is missing, must admit that i have some 7 yr silver that has done that but only on the horizontal surfaces. after 18 monthsI’m with chris on this one.. if the insulation has gone the you would be looking at some very rapid and often extremely variable temperature changes, especially in cold weather. I would also find out the travelling distances for the 2 vehicles….
probably unrelated but I have been doing some static clings for inside of car windows. 2 decals, printed at the same time in the same 1m batch, one in the front window of a jeep and one in the rear.
Decal in the front curls up at the edges and leaves ink on the inside of the window when removed, one on the back…. no problems.
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Probably not much help, but what inks were you using?
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Horizontally facing on a bonnet above the engine, as mentioned rapid heat temps and rapid cooling plus extra UV not just during the summer months but all year long will be a factor here not to mention during the winter the bonnet will heat up quicker than any other part of the vehicle.
I also think because of the decal been predominately black has allowed for more of the summer heat to be absorbed that will lead to the shortening of the material and inks stability.
Nigel
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im a grafity-p approved fitter since 2006 and personnally i would say that that relates to a number of things Gassing off for one! you say 2 days gassing off?was that laid flat on a bench with nothing over it?or was it rolled up and put to one side? temp changes?well if its to do with temp! why is it only the lminate that has failed and not the black print? may soung a bit geeky but i have tested vinyls on my own car and van printed black and manufacyured black laminated un-laminated glosses and matts! between black and white on a sunny day there is 16degrees difference between the 2 thats a big heat range!!! looks like heat has been applied for fitting and the printed has shrunk back quicker than the laminate to me
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