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  • Some window etch effect/frosting questions please…

    Posted by Neil Beckett on 4 April 2013 at 18:50

    Hi all,

    Still yet to dip my toe into window frosting. Have been off the scene for a while with health issues.

    Just met a potential customer yesterday for quite a big job, mainly involving window frosting.

    Q1. Customer wants a long horizontal band of frosted vinyl (around 1200 in height)560mm off the floor running horizontally across a glass height of 2650. If I bought a 1220 wide roll of etch effect, would it be suitable to use straight off the roll without any trimming on either sides for a clean edge? Would the very edge be usable and with a consistent clean regular edge of would it undulate?

    Q2. On another window panel client wants a 4 colour logo printing onto the etch effect vinyl (will have to outsource for this if its possible), is this possible and if so what brand and product? The premises next door looks like they have had full colour print direct onto the frosting? Can this be done? Or would fosting on the inside and printed clear vinyl on the outside be the way to go?

    Q3. Given that I’m new to frosting and its a large job, what brand would you consider the easiest to apply?

    Many thanks and as ever and look forward to your guidance and wisdom . 🙂

    thanks,
    Neil.

    Neil Beckett replied 12 years, 6 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Simon Worrall

    Member
    4 April 2013 at 19:20

    Neil

    1. I would always cut off the edges. In my experience the rolls always get bashed no matter how well they have been treated, and they are a magnet for any dust that happens to be around..
    2. As far as I’m aware you can print onto any vinyl with a solvent printer, just make sure it is clean. The trouble is if you laminate it you will change the appearance.
    3. I find the 3m dusted crystal and frosted crystal (I get the two mixed up) the easiest to apply, and the one we use most of. Personally I always apply frosting wet, (I can hear the moans of disapproval).

    Simon

  • Alan Drury

    Member
    5 April 2013 at 16:02

    I always put frosting on wet as well unless it is a smallish logo or lettering, that said the last job I used Hexis air release and although expensive it did work well although it does have a strong initial tack.
    Alan d

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    5 April 2013 at 21:30

    Many thanks Alan and Simon for your feedback. I’ll make sure the edges are cut off the frosting.
    Ive made a quick visual to hopefully explain better what I’m looking at doing. It would be a height thats out of reach from people picking or peeling the logo off from the outside. Would this work or would you notice the edges of the clear vinyl that the logo would printed on. Would the frosting on the other side of the glass show this up somehow?
    The advantages of this is that the client only intends to be there for 12 months and would only have to remove the external logo’s and not all the frosting (there will be a lot of frosting).
    Look forward to you feedback.


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  • Chris Windebank

    Member
    6 April 2013 at 08:20

    print the clear in reverse and apply from the inside then flood coat with the frost

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    7 April 2013 at 07:15

    Thanks Chris! 😀

  • David Rogers

    Member
    7 April 2013 at 12:20

    print on clear in reverse then ‘laminate’ it with the etch…works a treat..

    Does sort of negate the whole ’12 months then remove’ idea though.

  • Neil Beckett

    Member
    10 April 2013 at 08:44

    Thanks David.

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