• Solvent Waste?

    Posted by Joseph Helm on 16 May 2009 at 15:07

    Hi

    How do you guys dispose of the waste from Solvent printers?
    Do you sub the job out to a company like rentokil-initial?

    Our printer has a big bottle, thats only about a quarter full.. But I’d like to sort things out now ready.

    Thanks

    Joseph

    Adrian Yeo replied 16 years, 2 months ago 21 Members · 33 Replies
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  • Will Plane

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 16:45

    down the sink, job done.

  • Graeme Harrold

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 17:13

    Take it to your council recycling centre whilst doing a domestic rubbish run!!!
    Pouring stuff in your own drain is too risky with water companies tracing stuff pretty quickly.

  • Joseph Helm

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 17:20
    quote WillPlane:

    down the sink, job done.

    Not something I’d ever try doing.

    @Graeme, I was thinking about the rubbish dump… I’ll have to go over and check it out.
    Thanks

  • John Gregson

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 18:22

    If you are going to the council tip don’t use your vans or cars with company livery – in Newcastle if your van/car has livery you need a license to use the tip at about £25 a pop.

    Cheers John

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 18:53
    quote John Gregson:

    If you are going to the council tip don’t use your vans or cars with company livery – in Newcastle if your van/car has livery you need a license to use the tip at about £25 a pop.

    Cheers John

    We are not trying to avoid paying for commercial waste are we John?
    My council tax is high enough, without people abusing tidy tips,

    Pour it down the lav, it cant be any more harmful that the stuff that normally goes down there!

    Peter

  • David Rogers

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 18:54
    quote WillPlane:

    down the sink, job done.

    if that’s any more than a bit of tongue in cheek – I seriously hope you don’t do that.
    Just from and ethical point of view and the fact that you could single handedly contaminate the waste water. The environment protection agency would have your ass on a plate…

  • David Rowland

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 18:57

    ours ends up in a drum, its supposed to be emptied but its not as its never got full

  • John Gregson

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 19:00

    Hi Peter, I’ve never used the tip for commercial waste – I already sort and pay for that through my business – but yes my comment did infer that.

    The reason i brought this up was I went to the tip the other day in my car which has co livery on. I was trying to get rid of garden rubbish, grass and tree cuttings after a tidy up. The guy wouldn’t let me use the dump as I didn’t have a license.

    Cheers John

  • Nicola McIntosh

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 19:03

    throw it on your weeds, thats what i used to do 😀

    nik

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 19:07

    It doest kill our weeds!
    they must be harder down south!
    Peter

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 19:21
    quote John Gregson:

    Hi Peter, I’ve never used the tip for commercial waste – I already sort and pay for that through my business – but yes my comment did infer that.

    The reason i brought this up was I went to the tip the other day in my car which has co livery on. I was trying to get rid of garden rubbish, grass and tree cuttings after a tidy up. The guy wouldn’t let me use the dump as I didn’t have a license.

    Cheers John

    John, our tidy tip will allow vans and pick-ups, even sign written, for domestic rubbish, but we have to apply for permission first, (no cost) the council can then control the number of visits by each vehicle, so it prevents the cowboy builders from avoiding paying, but then they just fly tip, which costs even more to clean up!
    Peter

  • John Gregson

    Member
    16 May 2009 at 19:33

    Bloody fly tippers 👿

    We have a problem at the moment with people coming onto our industrial estate and using our bins and skips to dump stuff – if the skips are full they just dump it anywhere. Would stop them myself, if I saw them, but I think the security guy must be letting them in at night 😕

  • Owen Lees

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 16:16

    wait until Nov 4th and then offer it as a non-lethal accelerant for the bonfire….

    Oo

  • Joseph Helm

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 16:25

    Hmmm I know a guy who has a log fire that might be able to use it up… as long as this stuff is still strong enough to burn.

  • Owen Lees

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 16:27

    Just bear in mind that solvent *unlike petrol* does not explode… it burns with a relatively clean flame.

    At least that’s what I have heard anyway :lol1:

  • John Childs

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 17:59

    Have a word with your friendly local garage. Ours goes in their waste oil tank.

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 18:20

    Here’s my theory:-

    Does it actually do any harm to the "environment" if you pour it onto the ground?

    If you pour it onto the ground the solvent will quickly evaporate leaving just the pigment behind. You will have added the solvent vapours to the atmosphere but this is no different to what you would have done if you had printed with it.

    So our only concern should be what makes up the pigment which is the only contaminant that would be left behind after you poured it onto the ground.

    And how safe is the pigment? Safe enough to be used to make prints so presumably no heavy metals or poisons for us to worry about. And what do we do with the wasted prints we produce and what becomes of every print once it has served it purpose? They all eventually end up in a waste bucket or skip to go to landfill.

    Thus pouring the waste ink onto the ground is no more damaging to the "environment" than printing with it. 😀

  • Phill Fenton

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 18:32
    quote Dave Rowland:

    ours ends up in a drum, its supposed to be emptied but its not as its never got full

    Thats because it evaporates – eventually you will end up with a drum full of pigment

  • Colin Hibbitt

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 20:10

    local garage is next door to me – so we use his waste oil drum

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    17 May 2009 at 21:07

    Local bodyshop, just ask them if you can poor it in their waste solvent, this then gets collected and disposed of in the correct fashion, it comes off their solvent reclaimed amount so its all good !!

  • Jason Xuereb

    Member
    18 May 2009 at 00:17

    I thought we were allowed to pour our waste ink over newspaper let it dry then throw it with the rubbish?

    We use eco sol max ink and I’m pretty sure that’s how we were advised how to dispose of whats in our waste bottles.

  • Shane Drew

    Member
    18 May 2009 at 00:41

    Our local tip has chemical days every 6 months, so you can drop off paint and chemicals, car batteries and tyres for free, without penalty.

    other than that, you can pour it into kitty litter and let it evaporate, then dispose of it that way.

  • leerees

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 11:48

    I put our waste ecosolvent ink into our office inkjet printer which we then use in B/W mode.

    The ink isn’t quite black but when all you’re printing is delivery notes and invoices quality isn’t of the essence.

    Saves us a fortune.

  • George Elsmore

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 12:07

    *drink*

  • leerees

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 12:36

    George I hope that’s cyan you’re drinking and not waste ink.

    I’m more of a "strawberry" magenta man myself but each to their own.

  • David Rowland

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 18:56
    quote Phill:

    quote Dave Rowland:

    ours ends up in a drum, its supposed to be emptied but its not as its never got full

    Thats because it evaporates – eventually you will end up with a drum full of pigment

    well its 75% full liquid… so perhaps I just need to boil it and get the pigment out, sell it as something i bet.

  • John Childs

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 19:32
    quote Dave Rowland:

    sell it as something i bet.

    Glue and paint remover maybe? 😀

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 22:52

    I take mine round to the mother-in-laws. Pop a bit in her cuppa. She never notices and The day of the will being read grows closer every day! 😉

  • John Thomson

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 22:56
    quote Karl Williams:

    I take mine round to the mother-in-laws. Pop a bit in her cuppa. She never notices and The day of the will being read grows closer every day! 😉

    :lol1:

    john

  • Karl Williams

    Member
    20 August 2009 at 23:14
    quote John Thomson:

    quote Karl Williams:

    I take mine round to the mother-in-laws. Pop a bit in her cuppa. She never notices and The day of the will being read grows closer every day! 😉

    :lol1:

    john

    Why tip it down the bog when it can be put to good use? 😀 😀

  • Stuart Flynn

    Member
    24 August 2009 at 11:12

    I would say that disposing of your waste solvent by throwing it on the ground or down the toilet is not recommended. If caught, particularly in the UK or EU, you’re more likely to be hit with a huge fine.
    Disposal laws are a bit more expectant these days and any contamination of soils or waste is not taken lightly.
    It does specifically state on the safety data sheet of the OEM ink not to ‘dispose of waste to the sewer’

    It may be odour light but the solvents in the ink are not nice and the solids contents are certainly not soil friendly. If anything you should be talking to your ink supplier about their legal obligation to accept any returned waste. The OEM may say no but it is a legal requirement, particularly in Europe so don’t take no for an answer.

    As an ink supplier we have arrangements with some users to take back collected waste, as long as it is ours and we then dispose of it accordingly. i.e. it costs a lot of money per annum to do so.

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  • Adrian Yeo

    Member
    24 August 2009 at 15:11

    [quote="Stuart Flynn"]If anything you should be talking to your ink supplier about their legal obligation to accept any returned waste. The OEM may say no but it is a legal requirement, particularly in Europe so don’t take no for an answer.

    Thats interesting, what piece of legislation is that requirement buried in? If thats the case then it would surly be the same for producers of paints, chemicals etc?

    My company spends an absolute fortune in waste disposal. If that was to be passed back to the suppliers of the products in the first place one can see a rather dramatic increase in initial purchase prices.

    Would also mean that they would have to register at the very least as a waste transfer station as they are handling waste not produced by themselves.

  • Adrian Yeo

    Member
    24 August 2009 at 15:13
    quote Karl Williams:

    quote John Thomson:

    quote Karl Williams:

    I take mine round to the mother-in-laws. Pop a bit in her cuppa. She never notices and The day of the will being read grows closer every day! 😉

    :lol1:

    john

    Why tip it down the bog when it can be put to good use? 😀 😀

    … can always flog it to your local glue sniffer too! 😀

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