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Solvent print durability
I Don’t know about anyone else but I’ve heard a lot lately about people going for solvent because of durability over Eco solvent.
Ok solvent stands up to the Meths test and many other chemicals,
but we have a Cadet and like many people we bought it because I did not want to have to laminate just for small stickers.
Don’t get me wrong When doing anything for a vehicle we always laminate but I do not agree with the manufacturers claims that prints are scratchproof.
Evan after several days, if you run yours nails over a print then it will scratch off, so if its going any where that it can be touched at all or any chance of anything rubbing against it then it needs to be laminated.
So the many people buying these machines thinking that the prints are hard wearing then its simply not true.
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not necessarily what is meant mate, rub it with your finger firm. it wont come off, rub it with chemicals, it wont come off… yes it will if you persist but you know what i mean. in comparison to the co-sol its much more durable. scratching is different. can you scratch a cars paint? a gloss painted door etc etc yes… ink is no different to paint really. lamianting seperates that ink/paint from any contact yes… but without going there the most durable is solvent hands down.
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What Iam saying is people are going into this blind.
Following all the manufacturers hype etc you expect it to be like thermal print or screen print.
But I know several people who say this is scratch proof, and I don’t mean hard rubbing, just a glance across it with your nail takes it off.
People should not be misled, Unlaminated is ok out of reach only ! -
nah sorry mate, cant agree… you must be using wrong profile or media…
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have you tried the rub test on a thermal print after a few weeks on a vehicle? i think you will find its not just as resistant as you may think?
even when i printed thrmal i would laminate on vehicles… but what you forget is solvent inks etc are far cheaper, faster to print, better quality etc etc than that of thermal -
Only using recomended media and profiles for that media, maybe we’re doing something wrong ? I Know What machine you have Rob… Just try this tomorrow…
Take something printed several days ago, rest your nails on it edge down
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ok ill give that a go mate… if it is anything like you say ill video it and show on the site.
are we talking complete white showing in scratch. dulling scores of the print or??? -
Here we go again about durability scratch test etc etc
All I can say is I bought a CADET
Scratch test Hexis 3 to 5 year scratch scratch oh through the vinyl
Convex same setting as Hexis scratch scratch puckered the vinyl before any evident scratches maybe my thumbnail is a bit heavy but does it have to be repeated over and over again that everything going on to vehicles needs to be laminated for durability God even windscreens don’t stand upME for ONE fed up hearing about it any who don’t are lacking the old Common S I would say.
Goop
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we have two printers, JV3 160 and lets say that it is scratch resistant but not perfect over a full set of materials. The old Albatross is strong but I came up with a theory…
I am from Silk Screen background and we have to choose the right inks for the surface or it will scratch off, so my theory is that inks *will* scratch off on some surfaces.
a few factors effect vinyl, like coating, drying, ink % in the profile and how well the media is tuned to the profile.
Eco vs Solvent, well it’s really down to performance and price at the end of the day. I think solvent printers have done well to get this difficult to print with ink at 720dpi+ as solvent ink is a beast at times.
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