Sign Trays

[Lynn Normington]

Rich that looks like hard messy work how long did it take ? guess you love your work, look forward to the end results. if I was an engineer I would know the correct term for the little square bits (look like hinges) on the inside, are they a necessity?

Lynn

[Robert Lambie]

excellent work rich, i look forward to seeing the next steps mate. well done!

[Richard Urquhart]

thanks
Lynn these are so easy to make if the board is cut to size it takes me about 40min each board to make

there is the mess from the router to pick up after that’s the only bit i don’t like
rich more to follow

[Dave Harrison]

Excellent stuff Richard.
I’d just like to add another tip regarding these trays if I may.

If you are going to make a sign using multiple trays to make up a fascia, as often the case with shop sighs etc.
Get your supplier to cut a couple of mm off the ends of the sheet, or run a the router down the edges that are going to but together.

The reason for this is that dibond rynobond etc are cut on a press at the factory and this leaves a slight bevel.

This isn’t too bad on a coloured surface, but I made a tray up using brushed ali finish last week and the bevel was clearly visable. .

customer was happy. . but I wasn’t !

[Robert Lambie]

i think i know what you mean dave… when you butt join white dibond and the like there is also a tiny fraction of the black/dark core visable. when two white sheets join it can also appear like a little black/dark line/join. if that makes sense? 😕

[Richard Urquhart]

Dave i agree mate it squashes the sheet i only butt cut ends
thanks mate

[Dave Harrison]

exactly rob. . I’ll post a picture of the job to illustrate the point when I get 5 mins.

[Dave Harrison]

Rich I’ve only just realised where your workshops are. . off pitlake ?

How long have you been there ? we’re neighbours mate !
😀

[Richard Urquhart]

no way dave where are you

[Dave Harrison]

At the moment I am mainly working from home (Nelson Close off Derby Rd ) – for big stuff I have use of a general workshop in Addiscombe its less than ideal and to be honest the last 12 months have been a nightmare (production wise).
I am actively looking for a shop / unit, but price and location as you probably know are proving to be a pain. I’m a little concerned that the local area has its fair share of sign shops so am looking further afield, that said I think we are all busy, and I feel I’ve already established quite a good customer base of my own. Also It would be nice to live as close to work as possible. So if you decide to relocate let me be the first to know ! !

😀

Anyway nice to meet you Richard I’ll have to pop round and introduce myself properly when I get 5 mins

[Richard Urquhart]

Dave its a small world
your welcome to pop round and I’m always willing to help
my workshop is upstairs and i have use of the massive workshop below as i have know them for years
i had workshops in addiscombe which were knocked down to make room for yet more houses
see ya soon rich

[Alistair Richards]

Rich, They look great. I wanna get me router out and have a go at making a tray. Couple questions if I may.

Where can I buy the angled router bit with flat spot?

How do you glue the tray together, is a hot glue gun suitable?

And, do you personally, use a router table or just do it hand held?

Cheers mate good stuff.

Ali :lol1:

[Richard Urquhart]

i dont use the correct one mate just a normal half round bit about 10mm
and just a cheap Bosch hand router
here are some more pics

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[Alistair Richards]

Rich

Great looking job :thumbup2: I’d love to get stuck into one like that. :lol1:

[Cheryl Smith]

beautiful, love blue shiney lights….sigh

[LeeMorris]

Hi Rich

Another great l.e.d sign!

Do the letters come ready made complete with the l.e.d’s and back plates?
where do you get them from?
cheers
Lee

[Richard Urquhart]

hi mate
no they are all parts i buy then make up
the letters come form one place
the L.E.DS from another and i diffuse the backs of the acrylic before i mount the L.E.DS

the L.E.D S come in a length and you have to fit them inside the letter it take i bit of messing about to get the correct spread of light and the correct amount of modules

rich
check out the finished job
http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … 298#187298

[Chris Whitehead]

I’m intrigued about the LED lighting…

How are they mounted inside? and what sort of power supply was used, for how many LED’s? I’d love to make something like this myself, but im worried about the loading or LED’s, power feed, and resistors etc…

Any advice you can give me would be gratefully recieved…

Also, being cheeky, where did you manage to get such letters made up? I’ve not been able to find anywhere that can supply such letters?

[Richard Urquhart]

hi mate for working out of L.E.D s and correct load i just give the amount of L.E.Ds to my supplier and he works out a transformer i need

120 L.E.Ds USE A 60WATT transformer about £25
the letters are just built up letters have a look in sign mags etc etc
I’m not sure if i can post suppliers on here

rich

[Peter Mindham]

Rich
That looks really good. We are making more and more di bond trays. They just look well finished when they are installed. All our clients so far have been really pleased with the results.

Nice work!

Peter

[Alex Wilson]

If you need a good glue for making up the trays try Ravi or Raj on 01895811422 they also supply D/sided tapes as well. let them know Alex from Falcon Graphics gave you their number.

Best wishes
Alex

[Chris Whitehead]

quote Richard Urquhart:

the letters are just built up letters have a look in sign mags etc etc

I never knew they did a signmakers magazine…

Could you tell me the names of them please, and i’ll pop down to borders later to see if I can find them 🙂

Thanks Rich 🙂

[Neil Churchman]

Richard,

Great looking job – you should be proud of yourself. 🙂

[Richard Urquhart]

Thanks all
Rich

[Amin Miah]

Hi Richard, We have been looking at picking up alubond to make trays. How easy have you found it to work with and what did you use to cut the folding lines etc. And what are you using to hold the corners together adhesive or screws etc? We are very new to the sign game.
Amin 😀

[John Harding]

Amin

You wont get a reply from Rich as he is away for a few days I believe, however he has done a demo on this site regarding the trays, have a look at that.

John

[Amin Miah]

Thanks John.

[Nick Dowell]

Sorry if i sound daft but I cant see any pictures? 🙂

Any help?

[Dave Bruce]

are you logged in Nick?

Dave

[Nick Dowell]

Genius!!

many thanks! 🙂

[kabal_pt]

Excellent stuff rich!

This will help me a lot.

just a question! how do you fix it to the wall!?!?

Thanks!

[Richard Urquhart]

To fix trays to the wall, run 2 lengths of angle on the wall top and bottom of tray and fix from the very top of the tray and bottom in to the angle, fitting this way no fixings are shown and the job looks great
Rich 😀 😀 😀

[kabal_pt]

ty m8!!

😉

[Arslan mostefa kara]

quote Richard Urquhart:

Hi all just a post to show some sign trays i have been making
will post some pics as i go as im making another l.e.d halo lit sign
I have made theses trays with a 100mm return this is to give the sign a look of depth but also to push the sign away from the wall as there is a roller shutter box and viewed from the pavement the sign would be set to far back and you would not see the letters as well

will keep you posted
ric 😀 😀

Hi! what kind of router did you use to do this job ?
thanks
Arslan

[Richard Urquhart]

the most basic bosch one, you dont need an expensive one, after all it just needs 4 lines routed to the rear
rich

[Kimberley Edwards]

This is really excellent work and your step by step is very informative. You should consider submitting this to SignCraft magazine.
BTW:

quote :

I never knew they did a signmakers magazine…

Could you tell me the names of them please, and i’ll pop down to borders later to see if I can find them

SignCraft is a very good one.

[James Martin]

it is great tutorial, tks Rich.

Another great thread to compliment:

http://www.uksignboards.com/viewtopic.p … highlight=