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    Posted by Steve Smith on 13 June 2006 at 20:28

    Hi. Not a graphic help request, but a sign fixing query.
    I have been asked by a local car sales dealer to put some signs on his anti theft barriers. He has left it to me to come up with the best thing to do the job for him. What material would you recommend for the sign?
    There is only 3 sections of steel to fix to, so the bottom section needs to be self supporting, also the position is near the sea and very windy. So that seems to rule out banners, plus a semi rowdy pub is just over the road and low banners would make nice playthings after closing time for the local thugs. Would painted 12mm ply do the job or can anybody come up with a better alternative? The barriers are removed to enable cars to be shifted around and are heavy enough as is is, so the added weight of the ply may be a bad point.


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  • Ian Higgins

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 20:32

    Hi steve,

    I think that Di don would be the answer… Others may have other ideas though..
    Cheers
    Ian

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 20:38

    dibond does it for me to, its light and durable.
    with a bit of ingenuity, you could also make them easily changed, hence repeat work to change the message,

    Peter

  • Steve Smith

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 21:11

    Peter, Higgi, many thanks, much appreciated.
    Now the daft questions…. 😳
    (1) Is Alupanel a suitable alternative to Dibond? I ask because my local sign supply shop stocks this stuff and it will save me hunting down another supplier.
    (2) Thickness. Will 3mm be suitable or should I go thicker? Please say 3mm will do as it’s the only one in their catalogue 😉
    (3) Does £80 (+ vat) sound good for a 3050×1500 sheet (yellow)? Or can anybody recommend another source?
    Thanks in advance
    Steve.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 21:13

    yes, yes and yes,
    Just my opinion
    Peter

  • John Childs

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 21:18

    I’d go with dibond/alupanel as well.

    It’s only 1500 long by 500 deep so I would say that 3mm would be fine. Of course, it will not be vandal proof (but what is?) but at least if kicked it will only bend rather than shatter like foamex or ply will.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 21:25

    Steve, looking at your drawing, are you just doing a single side mounted to the external box? If so fixed with large head rivets, on 3 sides would be very strong.

    Peter

  • Steve Smith

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 21:44

    Peter, single sided only, so rivets would be a good idea as it would stop the local primates undoing any screws etc. Are there likely to be any problems with expansion using riveted Alupanel/Dibond? South facing site, open to sunshine.

    Steve.

  • Peter Normington

    Member
    13 June 2006 at 21:48

    The coeficient of expansion for composite is very low, so no problems.
    the steel will expand more, so in effect keeping the composite tightly stretched on the frame.

    Peter

  • Steve Morgan

    Member
    14 June 2006 at 07:41

    Steve,
    Can I suggest that you get your local sheet metal shop to fold a 50mm return on the bottom edge, notched out at each end where it goes over the tube.
    It’ll make the bottom edge stiffer and provide a safer edge when the whole barrier it picked up and it will prevent the bottom edge acting like a guillotine on someones toes when they replace the barrier – because someone will certainly drop it!
    Steve

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