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  • should i buy second hand summa d60

    Posted by kevin.henshaw on 6 July 2009 at 14:38

    i,im in the market to try doing some vinyl signs,just thought i’d give it a go, not putting away my plastering trowel just yet,,but then im not getting any younger either ,anyway ive got the chance to buy a summa d60 24" vinyl plotter cutter about 3-4 years old not done much work (so thay say) would this be a good starter plotter thanks kev (-)

    Ian Muir replied 16 years, 5 months ago 8 Members · 15 Replies
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  • Ian Muir

    Member
    6 July 2009 at 14:46

    Hi Kev

    Doesn’t really matter if it’s been worked hard, a summa, even the basic one, is at the quality end of plotters.. much rather an old summa (or graphtec, roland, mimaki) than a new chinese import (unreliable, unpredictable and little support)… so providing price is right then buy it, should last years longer.

    Ian :lol1:

  • kevin.henshaw

    Member
    6 July 2009 at 15:47

    thats great news thanks for your reply ian

  • Hugh Potter

    Member
    6 July 2009 at 16:41

    I agree with Ian,

    my D60 must be around 5yrs now, i wouldn’t swap it for a new cheap cutter for anything (except enough money to buy a new one!), it’s been ultra reliable and in that time has only required a new cutting strip and blades,

    touch wood!

  • Robert Lambie

    Member
    6 July 2009 at 17:09

    Summa, Graphtec, Roland etc No matter how good a brand of cutter, you can still get stung very easily!
    It comes down to who has been using it and how heavily it has been used.
    Would you buy a motor vehicle over the Internet just because its nice and shiny and one careful lady owner? of course not!
    it would be wise to first find out the mileage, find out why the car is for sale, MOT, service reports etc?

    yes buying a good brand second hand is much better than buying a chinese cutter, but doesnt mean its going to work.

    I sold an old 24inch roland cutter some years ago… it was one of the early camm1’s with metal casing etc… really built to last and much better built than new cutters these days… i sent it to roland and had a full service on it before putting it up for sale. 2 weeks after it was sold some sort of catch/arm snapped and shot off the machine. so instantly the guy had an outgoing cost. nobodies fault, simply wear and tear on a very good machine.

    make sure you get manuals, drivers etc etc if they say they don’t have but easy to obtain, fine, tell them to obtain them and they have a deal!
    get them to show you it running and how to set it up…
    set it up yourself whilst they watch…
    listen for it running smooth, no clackety bits or clunks coming off it as it runs. tell them to run it at full pelt also… this helps when listening. that said, if no experience in running a machine you probably could mistake the sounds coming from them s they do whiz about a bit.

    best of luck anyway…

  • kevin.henshaw

    Member
    6 July 2009 at 18:20

    this sites great for info from others experinces ..this summa was the smaller of two summa’s wasn’t getting used so he traded it in for the bigger one its comeing from some one who deals with them so hopefull is word is honest , will let you know if sign makeing is better than plastering its never easy starting a know job will let you know how i get on thank kev

  • Richard Urquhart

    Member
    6 July 2009 at 18:44

    Got my d60 secondhand and well used around 4 years ago, it was around 4 years old then and still going very well.
    Rich

  • kevin.henshaw

    Member
    8 July 2009 at 20:05

    hi again,,thanks for the info from the people who replyed,,,i did buy the second hand summa d60 …got it set up with flexisign-pro..seems to be ok so for..im at the bottom of the ladder hopeing to work my way up,,managed to make my first sign my doughters name for her door,,that makes one person happy thanks kevin 🙂

  • David Rogers

    Member
    8 July 2009 at 23:15

    Well done for starting with a quality plotter and even Flexi-pro. That’s a top piece of software package for somebody just starting out.

    Dave

  • David-Foster-

    Member
    9 July 2009 at 14:31

    If I was spending over £3,500 on software and just starting out I would have bought a brand new cutter for £1000 incl. warranty with Sign Lab Vinyl or CorelDraw with Sign Tools 3 and saved at least £1,500. Sorry not sure which version of Flexi you have, they do a starter one for £395 I think.

  • DaneRead

    Member
    9 July 2009 at 14:58

    what version flexi did you get did it come with cutter

  • kevin.henshaw

    Member
    9 July 2009 at 20:17

    all i got was summa d60 with stand usb cable ,,,got it from a friend who put flexisign-pro 8.1 v1 he says its good ..payed £770 job lot ..kev

  • David-Foster-

    Member
    9 July 2009 at 21:35

    Hi Kevin, the software should be good as it retails for….

    FlexiSIGN PRO 8.5 – PC Our Price: £3,195.00 (+ VAT)

    Not being disrespectful, but you have a pirated copy. I can’t be bothered now to type all I wanted to say.

    Plastering and bricklaying are true arts in my eyes, and I would pay someone to plaster for me. I wouldn’t get a knock off bag of plaster and buy a second hand skimming trowel and expect to be a plasterer. This has been argued on here time and time again.

    Respect for trying out a new trade, good luck, but do it legitimately.

  • David Rogers

    Member
    9 July 2009 at 21:45

    Ditto to above if it is indeed the "Yar! Jim lad!" version. Not looked upon too kindly round here on the whole.

    If it’s not – wow, a stunning gift from a friend that didn’t need his £3k dongle protected software.

  • kevin.henshaw

    Member
    10 July 2009 at 16:36

    ok,,dont want you getting the wrong idear,my friend as is own business witch is doing very well he built is own 5 bedroom house with double gaurge & workshop above ..weve been friends from school days ,,i gave him a very good price to do all the plastering work,,witch he was very pleased with..he didn’t realise how fisacly hard work plastering was im not getting any younger,so then he talks me into haveing a go at vinyl sign cutting,,he did say how much software was,i though he was jokeing i guess i owe hime a beer…have a laff at the spelling the dictionary is in the post ..kev

  • Ian Muir

    Member
    10 July 2009 at 17:48

    All the best with your venture Kev, hope it gives you pleasure.

    Ian :lol1:

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